Pretty Sick of Mafia at this Point Mafia TALES WIN???

[Cori]

So I guess the most reasonable thing to do would be to look back and see who defended Fuzz, right? Though I know some of the mafia probably avoided speaking up for him so that they didn't seem suspicious. Maybe look at people who voted Oracle AND defended Fuzznut?

[Supaaku]

Only two people voted for Oracle on Day 1. BeatBoxingBoo and Mr.Fuzznut. Only Guyperson defended Fuzznut on Day 3.

Sadly the voting trail has ended and I'm only left with assumptions. Assuming Fuzznut was not the Miller and indeed Mafia then Guyperson must also be Mafia.

Supporting Facts: Defended Fuzznut
Voted for Flicky

Opposing Facts: Voted for Fuzznut

I'm going to trust my gut on this one and Lynch Guyperson.

[Cori]

I wish the mortician had the ability to differentiate between vanilla mafia and miller, but oh well. I guess Guyperson does seem like a logical next guess, but I'm not sure. I'll hold my vote until more people step into the discussion.

[AngelicSongx]

It feels like that's what everyone does, vote or talk when more people start talking. (myself included)

[Guyperson]

In tradition of thinking someone is guilty for being the first to vote on a day, my guess now is Supaaku.
Now, Sup, you said that you'd think I'm guilty for trying to divert suspicion off of Fuzz if he turned out to be mafia. But then you bring up that he could have been the miller. Then, when it's confirmed that that is a distinct possibility, I am still voted on.
I still have thoughts on Chopstix, but his line of thought could be considered third party or mafia, while yours lacks that third party smell.

[Supaaku]

I asked if it was a possibility so I could think about whether or not you were Mafia. The chances of a Miller being the only one to bandwagon with the Spy on Day 1 are pretty slim. I'm going to go with the more likely outcome and say Fuzznut was indeed Vanilla Mafia. Your attempts to remove suspicion from him are my only lead at this point.

So please, if you've valid reasons for going after Chopstix or myself, let's hear them.

[Guyperson]

Let's see, yesterday's assumption of Chopstix was for starting a no lynch train (that he technically didn't vote in), and you are suspicious to me because you got the first lynch vote for today. That's all the leads I have without large scale backtracking.

Supporting Facts: Voted for Flicky

Okay hold up, Flicky was the guy on day one right? The one who TOLD EVERYONE HE WAS MAFIA? I honestly do not think that can be a supporting fact against me, or anyone.

[Supaaku]

It isn't really... by itself anyway. Day 2, when Reyo said that everyone should have No Lynched on Day 1, you were the only one to get defensive about voting for Flicky.

That made me circle your name as suspicious on my chart. Chopstix was circled Day 3 for saying we should No Lynch, as was everyone else who actually voted NL. Everyone also got a suspect mark for voting Flicky, which to the Mafia was a guaranteed kill. Both BBB and Fuzznut had this mark and both turned out to be guilty. Chopstix, however, does not have this mark.

[Guyperson]

Why, when a guy says "I am mafia please lynch me", when there are no roles that would benefit from this, would you not lynch him? Not lynching someone who comes right out and says he is mafia is... there is no metaphor for this! That is as far as criminal negligence can go in a mafia game!
MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT AND DISREGARD ALL CONSEQUENCES TO WHAT I SAY does not protect him from saying "I have a gun" in a bank. Oh hey, I guess there is a metaphor.

[Supaaku]

Does anyone have any leads to go on? Patterns they may have noticed? Evidence supporting or disproving Guyperson's claims or my own?

[AngelicSongx]

Well, I think that people who don't talk too much are suspicious. Not naming any names because everyone should say no to peer pressure bandwagons. (Also, I don't like when people don't talk because the thread gets pretty dead.) Since the mafia can talk in chat, all they need to do is be sneaky and go under the radar till the band wagons happen.

Also, putting in a few cents into your and Guyperson's argument, I don't think it was too weird to be defensive about lynching Flicky. He did vote for himself totally knowing that the mafia would bandwagon all over that. Wouldn't it make more sense to try and lynch whoever voted Flicky first?

[Supaaku]

Flicky's votes went like this.

1. Flicky (Dead Lightkeeper)
2. Tales (Only post after joining)
3. Guyperson
4. BBB (Dead Ringer)
5. Fuzznut (Dead Probable Mafia?)
6. Oracle (Dead)
7. FOR
8. D-vid
9. Sol
10. Angelicsongx

Guyperson is still pretty high up there and voted immediately before BBB(confirmed mob) and Fuzznut(probable mob).
The fact that Tales voted for Flicky and that's all he's done in the thread does seem to be suspicious however.

[Guyperson]

Stay silent and look suspicious
OR
Speak up and get lynched for defending myself

I really don't think the First-Day-Flick is useful to this investigation. Of the four people who voted for Flicky and died, one is Flicky (innocent but crazy), Oracle (Innocent), BBB (Bad), and Fuzz (???). That isn't enough to say anything about anything. And consider how many mafia are in this game at all, 4 or 5 or something. Even if they all voted, there are five-six innocents in that list. And if they didn't all vote? Then the list is useless for finding mafia.

[Guyperson]

Actually, now that I think about it, I really shouldn't have anything to fear since nobody has started to bandwagon with your vote on me.

[Supaaku]

I would actually really love if more than three people were involved in this discussion. My chart tells me Guyperson, but no one is telling me any different nor are they agreeing with me. I'm trusting my chart here and it seems to be working for me so far.

Should I remove any marks relating to Flicky from my chart or should I leave them as actually suspicious?

Also, does the town view it as more likely that Fuzznut was a Miller or Mafia?