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Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:34 pm
by YCobb
So do you wander around the world (lots of boring sailing, ha ha) or do you teleport to a different continent (read: switch stages like any other game)?

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:15 pm
by GarthKoopa
Galaxy Man wrote:so yeah they're all just different maps that they call continents with different areas to fight on that progress as you win

pretty much exactly like team fortress 2's control points then

what is this game doing that's different other than a scale that makes no sense and matters exactly zero

seriously this is hilarious how much you think this is some sort of godsend
They are NOTHING like TF2's control points. To capture a control point in TF2, all you do is stand on it for a couple seconds.... to capture a base in PlanetSide, you have to fight your way to the control center, have a hacker bypass security systems, and defend it until that hack is complete(takes 15 minutes on most bases, some bases have a "flag" unit that becomes active that can be transported to one of your own bases to instantly complete it)... which takes a hell of a lot longer than standing on a silly little circle for 5 seconds.

PlanetSide isn't just about scale, it's also about actual warfare.
YCobb wrote:So do you wander around the world (lots of boring sailing, ha ha) or do you teleport to a different continent (read: switch stages like any other game)?
You need to teleport through the warp gates, or teleport to your home base and take a dropship.

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:13 pm
by Galaxy Man
GarthKoopa wrote:
Galaxy Man wrote:so yeah they're all just different maps that they call continents with different areas to fight on that progress as you win

pretty much exactly like team fortress 2's control points then

what is this game doing that's different other than a scale that makes no sense and matters exactly zero

seriously this is hilarious how much you think this is some sort of godsend
They are NOTHING like TF2's control points. To capture a control point in TF2, all you do is stand on it for a couple seconds.... to capture a base in PlanetSide, you have to fight your way to the control center, have a hacker bypass security systems, and defend it until that hack is complete(takes 15 minutes on most bases, some bases have a "flag" unit that becomes active that can be transported to one of your own bases to instantly complete it)... which takes a hell of a lot longer than standing on a silly little circle for 5 seconds.
To capture a point in TF2, you have to START fighting your way to it, actively stopping the other team from stopping YOU, and then if the map is right, continue pushing to the next control point while the other team tries to take them back/take yours. All while actively fighting and having to play an almost literal tug of war. Some versions are offense/defense, where one team has all the control points and the other tries to take them. The classes are all set up much like Rock Paper Scissors, so major strategy is needed in some situations.

See, I can make things complicated also! Looks also like it's more complex and more strategic. Huh.
PlanetSide isn't just about scale, it's also about actual warfare.
so is every cawadoody
YCobb wrote:So do you wander around the world (lots of boring sailing, ha ha) or do you teleport to a different continent (read: switch stages like any other game)?
You need to teleport through the warp gates, or teleport to your home base and take a dropship.
so it's exactly like switching maps

it's funny how everything "original" it does is pretty much a slightly tweaked and more boring thing than less boring things that you're saying it's better than.

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:25 pm
by DarkSurfer
I'm assuming you're all arguing like children over Planetside being a copy-cat game. Planetside predated TF2 and Call of Duty and it was an MMO, and it was one of the first large scale FPS games. It was WAY more than any shooter's player count. Those were its draws, scale and MMO and one of the first of its kind.

But who thinks anymore.

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:29 pm
by Silver_Wolf
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*watches intently*

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:13 pm
by Galaxy Man
The Big Cheese wrote:I'm assuming you're all arguing like children over Planetside being a copy-cat game. Planetside predated TF2 and Call of Duty and it was an MMO, and it was one of the first large scale FPS games. It was WAY more than any shooter's player count. Those were its draws, scale and MMO and one of the first of its kind.

But who thinks anymore.
pretty much arguing because it 1) sounds boring as fuck 2) this guy is hilarious

i'll stop now

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:20 pm
by Exeres
One more. Just because PlanetSide pioneered all this stuff doesn't mean that other games aren't doing it better now. That's like people clinging to the original Halo multiplayer and refusing to even try newer shooters.

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:22 pm
by YCobb
We were hardly calling it a copy; we were pointing out that most of its 'unique' points aren't unique at all anymore.


And this isn't meant to be continuing the debate, rather, it's a point of curiosity to me: Is this the same sort of thing as Tribes? I remember hearing about it being an FPS MMO as well, and I've heard some great things about it.

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:48 am
by DarkSurfer
Galaxy Man wrote:
The Big Cheese wrote:I'm assuming you're all arguing like children over Planetside being a copy-cat game. Planetside predated TF2 and Call of Duty and it was an MMO, and it was one of the first large scale FPS games. It was WAY more than any shooter's player count. Those were its draws, scale and MMO and one of the first of its kind.

But who thinks anymore.
pretty much arguing because it 1) sounds boring as fuck 2) this guy is hilarious

i'll stop now
I am not against you all debating about the game, but how you're doing it. After awhile you both are ust arguing the same points but adding insults, which I'm not cool with.

If you guys want to debate, that's cool :U Just chill out a bit.

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:59 pm
by Syobon
It seems odd to me that noone in these 4 pages has named the biggest appeal to a continous universe to kill each other in (or maybe I've missed it):
- your actions have consequences
- as a result, there's the possibility of long term goals.

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:02 pm
by Kalekemo
Syobon wrote:It seems odd to me that noone in these 4 pages has named the biggest appeal to a continous universe to kill each other in (or maybe I've missed it):
- your actions have consequences
- as a result, there's the possibility of long term goals.
Sounds like too much responsibility D:

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:24 pm
by Syobon
Depends on your personal preferences eh? :)

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:47 pm
by Galaxy Man
Kalekemo wrote:
Syobon wrote:It seems odd to me that noone in these 4 pages has named the biggest appeal to a continous universe to kill each other in (or maybe I've missed it):
- your actions have consequences
- as a result, there's the possibility of long term goals.
Sounds like too much responsibility D:
way too much like responsibility

i do not play games to be responsible

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:55 am
by Wordsmith
Kalekemo wrote:Exeres, you know daisies well that that's impossible
I dunno

There's always Half-Life 3

Re: We can't talk about PlanetSide 2?

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:53 pm
by spongedav
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