Yeah, Ness is the better one of the two, with good aerial moves, a killing throw, the best dashgrab and a neat meteor. However, on the ground he is lacking and some characters' range shuts him down outright, even in the air. His PK thunder isn't the best recovery either, considering you can just destroy the ball by jumping into it.Verom wrote:You keep saying they suck without saying why they suck, which they don't, ness has amazing air control and easily one of the best grabs in the game(backwards toss can KO most characters at about 100, his recovery can be shut down if you aren't careful but that's not a problem with a bit of practice, and lucas has some of the best short hop moves I can think of, let alone his great tap moves.
Lucas has a slow grab, pathetic range/priority on a lot of moves, a recovery that can bring him back from pretty much any distance but is awfully easy to read and punish. PK fire, his main projectile, comes out pretty slow... I could probably come up with more. Both Ness and Lucas have some tools they can use effectively, but they're still stuck in the bottom half of the game's roster.
Then there's stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-AKKso_Po
Oh and while Ness' back throw is amazing it definitely does NOT kill things at 100%. Try it at 120%, earliest.
