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Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:08 pm
by Syobon
Just finish your degree and focus on the job getting part afterwards. It's naive to think you'll be able to land a job you're pop flyin' with right off the bat. Get a job, but keep applying for better ones. You have to work your way up. You might eventually end up somewhere that's nowhere near what you thought you'd be doing, or that has anything to do with your degree, but that you're still pop flyin' with.
(not implying there aren't things that could change in the US's system)

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:22 pm
by adurumus
The new generic, all purpose degree is Computer Science. If you want the college experience, but don't know what you really want to do, just get anything that sounds like that. There's always (in the "currently there is" sense) need for people who knows how to work dem computers.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:41 pm
by D-vid
Here in Germany almost no one takes that. Economy is all the shit here.
But I took it anyway cause that's what I do best. I hate the hardware classes though.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:11 pm
by Syobon
Yeah, I think as long as you don't get a degree with a shit job market that also has way too many people applying, shit will work out eventually. Might want to be prepared for moving though. Example from here: Physiotherapy.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:16 pm
by Madican
Taking IT:Networking classes this semester because I'm always seeing people look for good IT people. And by "good" I mean people who actually know their way around a computer and can assist the idiots who break them.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:03 pm
by BurntToShreds
There's always a need for teachers, so I should be okay in finding a job.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:06 pm
by Stranaton
My dad works in IT, and he always tells me to stay away.
He says that in twenty years, network maintenance will be so automated that anyone who knows basic computer knowlege can do it.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:07 pm
by Kalekemo
I've heard that the job market for teachers is pretty much dead.

On the topic of computer science, I tried it out but absolutely hated it

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:57 pm
by Madican
Stranaton wrote:My dad works in IT, and he always tells me to stay away.
He says that in twenty years, network maintenance will be so automated that anyone who knows basic computer knowlege can do it.
As long as there is someone who tries to turn on an unplugged computer, IT will exist.

As long as there is someone who doesn't know to run virus scans on a regular basis, IT will exist.

As long as there is someone willing to accept a bigger penis size from a poorly-worded ad, IT will exist.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:02 pm
by Stranaton
there is an IT
and then there is a network IT
I was referring to the latter.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:09 pm
by Madican
None of the jobs I'm looking at are limited solely to networking. They include it as part of the skillset but the majority of the job is fixing the mistakes of stupid people. Networking is intended to be self-sustaining, but there still needs to be people to set it up and take care of the problems that inevitably arise from technology.

And if the only knowledge needed is basic computer knowledge then the job field will be safe for a long time to come.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:16 pm
by Syobon
And if the only knowledge needed is basic computer knowledge then the job field will be safe for a long time to come.
20 years is 2 entire eras in IT.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:25 pm
by Madican
I do plan on staying on top of the field; I know how fast technology changes. Its users, however, do not. We could have complete virtual reality operating systems and there will still be those who call tech support because they goofed up something very simple.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:30 pm
by Stranaton
yeah my dad became an IT back before it was even a job.
he was a mechanical engineer at the company that made the air filter system for the Abrams tank, doing R&D
then his boss found out about his college days, when he would tool around on the school supercomputer (this was during the late punchcard era)
After his project with the tank filter, he was transferred to the newly formed IT department to make a thing called a "network"
he then met 2 guys who had the same stories as he did
they moved from there to EPC then Xerox, where they were laid off after their building was destroyed in 9/11 (it was next to the trade center)
25 years after meeting they are now each co-partners in their own IT company

I think they should know a bit about how the IT industry is trending.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:50 pm
by BurntToShreds
How can the job market for teachers be dead? Would it be because of tenure? That's the most logical conclusion I can make.