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Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:35 pm
by Syobon
Okay guys

Can someone please tell me this doesn't sound incredibly bad? Because I'm legitimately worried now

1. The new NDAA bill means that Americans can be indefinitely detained without trial, if there's evidence they support terrorism.
2. Protests such as Occupy are starting to be regarded as terrorism

1+2=?

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:38 pm
by FatOldRobot
1+2= Military state

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:40 pm
by Stranaton
Kaiser Obama.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:31 pm
by Syobon
That was an amendment that got rejected.

Also, I don't get how giving themselves the right to indefinitely detain citizens of other countries is any better.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:36 pm
by Syobon
Uh, did you read what I linked? If American citizens can be detained without trial for participating in protests, it's a police state.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:44 pm
by Syobon
Also, I forgot to put this in my first post, but Obama broke his promise and didn't veto the NDAA bill.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:44 pm
by Madican
Okay, that thing I said about it possibly coming to a second Civil War? That was not intended to be a prediction.

This is not going to end well.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:26 pm
by Kalekemo
Just got an email
Holy moly. We did it -- at least for now. The House Judiciary Committee looked certain to vote for the Stop Online Piracy Act today.

Instead, because of the work of so many rank-and-file Internet users, the bill's lead sponsor acknowledged that our concerns are legitimate, and adjourned the committee without holding a vote!

Of course, there's always more to be done. Will you shoot a quick email to Harry Reid to tell him to stop pushing the Senate version of the bill? He's threatening to call a vote in January.

Here's Wired's take on what went down:

The House Judiciary Committee considering whether to send the Stop Online Piracy Act to the House floor abruptly adjourned Friday with no new vote date set – a surprise given that the bill looked certain to pass out of committee today.

It's amazing work: Politicians are, for the first time, having to contend with the Internet as a political force -- and we might actually win.

But now we need to focus attention back on the Senate, where Marjority Leader Harry Reid says the PROTECT IP Act will be the first bill he calls for a vote next year.

Will you let him and your Senators know that they need to stop pushing this legislation? It's an election year, and they don't want to do any heavy lifting. Pushing hard now could get them to back down altogether.

Keep up the great work.

-Demand Progress

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:30 pm
by Zink
Syobon wrote:Also, I forgot to put this in my first post, but Obama broke his promise and didn't veto the NDAA bill.
Oh hell

Looks like the supreme court is our only hope now. Assuming they haven't already passed it.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:47 pm
by Exeres
We'll be fine, just nobody do or say anything that might label you a potential terrorist.

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This word really starts to look stupid when you look at it a lot.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:44 pm
by The Idiotic Oracle
Image

an image of the possible future

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:04 pm
by Kalekemo
Kalekemo wrote:Just got an email
Instead, because of the work of so many rank-and-file Internet users, the bill's lead sponsor acknowledged that our concerns are legitimate, and adjourned the committee without holding a vote!

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:22 pm
by Kalekemo
When you have probably over a million or two people notifying their senators and such, things happen sometimes

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:32 pm
by Exeres
Too bad none of those lazy assholes would lift a finger to try to do something about the NDAA.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:47 am
by Syobon
This is going to sound like a conspiracy theory, because it is
but

Isn't the timing of the SOPA bill and this slightly too convenient? The SOPA bill get's adjourned right around when the NDAA makes it way through the American justice system. While the internet is in uproar to protect it's precious content, backed by large corporations such as Google, a much more dangerous bill is being passed.