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Decker · Post by **Decker** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:09 pm

How do you know that a greater being didn't encourage evolution?

Why does evolution disprove a higher power?

Karilyn · Post by **Karilyn** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:11 pm

Decker wrote:How do you know that a greater being didn't encourage evolution?

Why does evolution disprove a higher power?

I don't. But it would be an illogical train of thought based on impulse.

It doesn't. But it does disprove every major religion in the world (except for I think Buddhism?).

Decker · Post by **Decker** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:13 pm

Why would it be illogical?

Suppose a higher power does exist, why would they disallow adaptation to the environment around their creation?

Deiphobus · Post by **Deiphobus** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:15 pm

yes, a theory does mean "this might be false". all of science may be false. theories are hypothesis that are observed to happen based on experiments.

nothing in that paragraph you quoted says scientific theory is fact.

evolution is a rational explanation for the evidence scientists have gathered, but it is not a fact.

DoNotDelete · Post by **DoNotDelete** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:15 pm

Oh crap.

Not this argument again.

Usny · Post by **Usny** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:16 pm

Scientific theory =/= fact. They are called theories because they explain behaviors so well and so consistently that we have to assume that they are true. However, there is not way to actually 100% prove Evolution, Gravity and the like. If we could, they would be Laws.

The good thing, though, is that we can modify theories when new observations either disprove them or make them obsolete.

Decker · Post by **Decker** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:18 pm

I'm not religious in any way. I'm Agnostic

But I'm just wondering why Evolution is the solve-all to all religion based argument ever, or why it's treated as such.

It really doesn't disprove anything. It just lets us look at the history to the human race.

Karilyn · Post by **Karilyn** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:19 pm

Post moved:

Bill Nye the Science Guy wrote:also its not genetic factors that make you a homosexual, its environmental factors, if it was genetic you probably wouldnt have been born

I recall a study where it was shown that females in families that had homosexual males tended to have more children, which would imply that the "male gay gene" is also an increased fertility gene in women.

Not saying that I'm positive that is the truth of the matter. But it's something to think about. If homosexuality is genetic, that doesn't mean it would have worked it's way out of the gene pool, if it had other benefits.

Decker wrote:
Plasma wrote:And then into a ridiculous debate between Bill and Decker about whether homosexuality is a choice, only where both party's conterpoints are "you're wrong because I said so".
Bill's wrong because I'm gay and I never chose to be.

He's saying that gay people chose to be gay. I never picked :psyduck

Also this. I never picked this. You can't chose to be gay anymore than I could chose to be straight.

DoNotDelete · Post by **DoNotDelete** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:21 pm

I like evolution because it means everything on the planet is related if you go back far enough we all share a common ancestor which was the first cell so we're related to plants, dolphins, spiders and everything else it's so awesome lol you guys suck.

Karilyn wrote:
Bill Nye the Science Guy wrote:also its not genetic factors that make you a homosexual, its environmental factors, if it was genetic you probably wouldnt have been born
I recall a study where it was shown that females in families that had homosexual males tended to have more children, which would imply that the "male gay gene" is also an increased fertility gene in women.

Not saying that I'm positive that is the truth of the matter. But it's something to think about. If homosexuality is genetic, that doesn't mean it would have worked it's way out of the gene pool, if it had other benefits.

Bill, people are born with genetic problems their parents don't have all the time.

Do your research.

Avengifier · Post by **Avengifier** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:22 pm

Actually, I've heard that if you are the second born male of a family you have a much greater chance of being gay. I'm the only male in my family. :/

Also Cracked.com told me once that if your middle and ring finger on your right hand are the same length, you are more likely to be gay.

Post by **Superior Bacon** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:25 pm

Actually, that's testosterone, I believe, not... gay-ness.

DoNotDelete · Post by **DoNotDelete** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:26 pm

Bacon wrote:Actually, that's testosterone, I believe, not... gay-ness.

Hm. Maybe that would have something to do with the level of testosterone in somebody's body being directly linked to their sexual psychology.

Dumbass.

Karilyn · Post by **Karilyn** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:27 pm

Avengifier wrote:Actually, I've heard that if you are the second born male of a family you have a much greater chance of being gay. I'm the only male in my family. :/

That too. The second born male thing (and it actually goes up with every child that is born, and is consistent through adoption and child displacement) from what I understand, has to do with the immune system of women.

Think about it. The immune system is designed to fight things which are in the body that aren't, well, your body. Males are, ya know, not women, and are as unborn, are inside the woman's body. And every time an "invader" is in a person's body, they get better at fighting it.

It's the woman's self-defense system trying fight off the male in the body, getting better every time.

Of course, that's guesswork at best, and still doesn't apply to lesbians. Oh well, time will tell.

Post by **Superior Bacon** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:27 pm

What the fuck, DnD.

Avengifier · Post by **Avengifier** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:28 pm

Yeah, not cool DND.