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[Crawfish]

Most Catholics I've met will admit that evolution is more of a vessel for God's creation. I don't think the Pope has released anything official, but I think the papists (lolo, sorry) are probably the most progressive major religion right now...

[Miss Starseed]

Fun fact: none of the seven major religions think evolution is wrong. Not even the Catholic Church.

If that's the official statement of the church bodies, then I'm genuinely surprised. As to this date, every religion I have yet seen considered evolution to be blasphemous.

This includes Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Lutheran, and Protestants. Along with a few non-denominational.

I'm aware that some Agnostic groups believe in evolution.

I think what he meant was the religion doesn't actually say evolution is wrong, it is just once again people using religion for their own purposes - the same way religious homophobics will use their religion to say it is wrong and you will be punished for being a homosexual.

[Squigzog]

My pastor told me the Bible is rather loosely translated. I don't see how evolution would be blasphemous. the word that they translated into days meant eons.





@ princess brothel: Gork and Mork ain't got nothing on Jesus. Nurgle though...

[LeftRightLeft]

Why so serious?

[Deiphobus]

Why so serious?

your sig.

[Sloth]

This is the only serious thread on AZ.

[Karilyn]

They didn't really show signs of any kind of sexuality at that point in life though. If they did, then I'd understand your point better, but since I am speaking of people I actually know, I know they weren't like, a little boy handswatting and trying to facebattle other boys. They were just a kid, as I was. We didn't concern ourselves with sexuality at that time.

It doesn't need to be sexuality, but rather gender cues.

As a general rule, the more transparent homosexuals of the male gender tend to perform unconscious gender cues which would be more appropriate for females.

These males tend to be targets of abuse for walking, or sitting, or talking different, in a way which is perceived as feminine.

HOLY CRAP THIS POST IS FULL OF DOUBLESPEAK

And these are people I knew of too. One friend of mine from like, 5th-7th grade, who I assume later went on to be gay (but I don't know for certain), was ridiculed heavily because of the way he crossed his legs and the way he walked. Everybody called him a faggot, and I helped him remember to sit and walk in a more masculine way so he wouldn't be bullied.

[LeftRightLeft]

This is the only serious thread on AZ.

Hey Sloth, whats up?

[Decker]

Why so serious?

You're new here so I'll put my belt back on but seriously?


This is the ONLY thread in the whole forum where we get down and gritty and discuss the truly serious topics in as mature a manner as we can. We lay down our opinions and argue our points to get the topics out of our systems.

It's like therapy

[Miss Starseed]

One of my friends told me they didn't believe in evolution because "if we were evolved from monkeys, then why do whales have similar bone structures to us as well?"

I stared her dead in the eye and said, "I have only taken one class on biology in my entire life and I can tell you the answer to that right now, with my little experience."

Her eyes sort of went wide and panicked and she changed the subject. I patted her on the back though for knowing that whales have hand-like bone structures in their fins. Most people that have told me they don't believe in evolution didn't even know that much, and it's pretty common fact.

And these are people I knew of too. One friend of mine from like, 5th-7th grade, who I assume later went on to be gay (but I don't know for certain), was ridiculed heavily because of the way he crossed his legs and the way he walked. Everybody called him a faggot, and I helped him remember to sit and walk in a more masculine way so he wouldn't be bullied.

Well, I have no other arguments to that. I can't argue with you about your experience. I guess it's like what someone said earlier - arguing environment can affect sexuality is foolish because there are too many factors or the argument is just futile to begin with.

[LeftRightLeft]

Why so serious?

You're new here so I'll put my belt back on but seriously?


This is the ONLY thread in the whole forum where we get down and gritty and discuss the truly serious topics in as mature a manner as we can. We lay down our opinions and argue our points to get the topics out of our systems.

It's like therapy

Ah okay, my apologies

[Sloth]

One of my friends told me they didn't believe in evolution because "if we were evolved from monkeys, then why do whales have similar bone structures to us as well?"

I stared her dead in the eye and said, "I have only taken one class on biology in my entire life and I can tell you the answer to that right now, with my little experience."

Her eyes sort of went wide and panicked and she changed the subject. I patted her on the back though for knowing that whales have hand-like bone structures in their fins. Most people that have told me they don't believe in evolution didn't even know that much, and it's pretty common fact.

I don't believe in Evolution, and I knew that.

[Crawfish]

The only reason we can't technically prove evolution right now is because there have only been detailed accounts of animals around for the last hundred years. In a couple thousand years (maybe even a million who knows) we'll still have all the pictures and records from now, so we can compare them. But I mean, gravity is a theory too, and people don't give it any shit for that...

[Decker]

Gravity is a pretty daisies solid theory then.

[Karilyn]

Gravity is a pretty daisies solid theory then.

I think it's important to define what science calls a theory.

A scientific theory does not mean "This might be false"

It more along the lines of means "We are 100% sure this is a fact, and we are just hammering out the fine details of how it works," Gravity and Evolution both fall under that category.

...

Of course, as a rule, any Law or Theory can in the future be completely overturned. It's pretty fucking rare for that to happen, and to the best of my knowledge; it is ALWAYS a revision, and NEVER a replacement of the theory...

The most well known one probably being the moving the center of the galaxy from Earth to the Sun. Major revision, but not a replacement of the theory that there are celestial bodies that orbit each other according to strict rules. They just tweaked the rules to make it more accurate.

Did I explain that well?

Some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, the word theory refers to a comprehensive explanation of an important feature of nature supported by facts gathered over time. Theories also allow scientists to make predictions about as yet unobserved phenomena.

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.

TL;DR: "Scientific Theory" means a fact, of which we still do not understand the details entirely, but has been proven to be pure truth.

Evolution is a fact