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Unbalanced wrote:
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LeftRightLeft wrote:In my opinion High School Dating doesn't really matter, it's basically asking for drama
Eh, it depends. Dimm and I met when we were in highschool and have been together for over three years now. It really depends on how serious a person and their boy/girlfriend take relationships.
Well, did you know each other first, or did you start dating just because the other asked?
We both really liked each other and kept dragging our feet on asking each other out for several months. A friend of ours actually had to tell us that we loved each other so we would stop being so daisies scared/shy. Oh, nerd love.

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Decker wrote:Daisies is used in place of d amn

Okay, noted, thanks
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Well see, that's what I'm talking about. You both got to know each other first, and you were good friends before you actually started 'dating'. The type of highschool relationship I was referring to is when you just go up and ask some (hot) girl out to a dance or something, and you start dating for a couple months until you find out that you're horrible matches and break up. And then you're sad about it for some reason.
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Yeah, but the big thing is that it's not just about being friends. It's also about having that something extra, that spark in your friendship to make it grow into something more.

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Deiphobus wrote:Karilyn, I also have to ask, have you ever had any open-minded conversation with people of other types or religion, (buddhism especially) you know, people with different beliefs and viewpoints than the reactionary evangelicals on national television?
Buddhism is the only mainstream religions I don't have an issue with, mainly because it does not worship any gods. Thus I internally classify it closer to a philosophy than a religion.
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Of course you need the spark too, but what I'm saying is that it will most likely be a failed relationship unless you both knew each other in the first place. Being friends first and knowing how compatible you are (and of course, the spark) will give you the basis for a good relationship.
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Karilyn wrote:Hmm, that was, interesting. I got banned from IP banned from a chatroom earlier today.

Admin was going on about how Hitler was the most evil person in the history of the world for his genocides he committed.

I pointed out that while Hitler was a bad person, that there were two people in the same century who committed larger genocides, Mao Tse-Tung and Joseph Stalin. And that the largest genocide in history, one which was over 5 times as large as the Hitler genocides, was the one that Europe committed when they moved into North and South America, killing the various native groups throughout the two countries in the course of a century or so.

The person said I was mentally ill for arguing that Hitler wasn't as bad as he thought, and then banned me.

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I find it interesting how Hitler has become such a buzzword, that the history of the world is easily overlooked. There are dozens of genocides that were committed that were far more heinous than the ones committed by Hitler, yet he is the person everybody runs to mention when they think of evil, and any suggestion that someone else could have been more evil, is met with appallment.
Through our education, I suppose it's been driven through our skulls that Hitler is the most evil being ever, when he was just an over the top German nationalist in the aftermath of WWI. I think it's only a big thing in the US because they were involved in the war.

But yeah, the person who banned you is an idiot. They just don't want to accept that their view of "justice", or "righteousness" could be wrong, or that there's something contradictory to their opinions.

And are you going to answer my question?

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Karilyn wrote:
Deiphobus wrote:Karilyn, I also have to ask, have you ever had any open-minded conversation with people of other types or religion, (buddhism especially) you know, people with different beliefs and viewpoints than the reactionary evangelicals on national television?
Buddhism is the only mainstream religions I don't have an issue with, mainly because it does not worship any gods. Thus I internally classify it closer to a philosophy than a religion.

I'm not completely sure on this but doesn't Buddhism function around Buddha, who was a person?
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But he wasn't a god.


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Oh boy I missed this thread!

I really don't have much to add to the whole "partner/lifemate" thing, as I've only been in one gay relationship in my entire life, in high school, and we were both in the closet, so it was really awkward. However, I like to think that around my college, I would have little trouble saying "Oh, I'm gonna go grab lunch with Tuxedo Mask" or "Yeah Tuxedo Mask and I saw that movie." The only problem I have is that it sounds, uh, how do I put this...? Really gay. I mean, obviously, but you know. For some people it may be very un-masculine. No one's trying to cause any shit by saying it, they're just saying whatever makes them comfortable.

Dating: Also something I find completely awkward. I think it's very necessary, as the "oh hey we're friends so let's date" thing doesn't tend to work for me. I feel like I'm trying to be all cool and revolutionary talking about the gay male side of things, but I'm not. I have something that I like to call a "friend block" where if I'm friends with a guy, I don't find anything about him very attractive. See, this is kind of a problem when I'm friends with a gay guy and we have a lot in common. Dating allows you to show that you have romantic feelings for someone right off the bat. Naturally it should escalate into intense friendship, but that's just my two cents.
Karilyn wrote:I find it interesting how Hitler has become such a buzzword, that the history of the world is easily overlooked. There are dozens of genocides that were committed that were far more heinous than the ones committed by Hitler, yet he is the person everybody runs to mention when they think of evil, and any suggestion that someone else could have been more evil, is met with appallment.
It's just because he's the most "celebrated" villain. Everyone knows Hitler, and he's supposed to be our modern archetype for evil. There may have been others, but it's impossible to deny how intensely malign he really was.
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Buddha is the founder and leader of Buddhism but not actually considered a god.

Edit: I have no "friendblock". I'm attracted to a ton of guys.
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there was more to the question than just buddhism :?


let me ask again: are you still inclined to generalize a whole group of people that they are all just crazy or on hallucinogens? that's just as bad as that guy thinking hitler is the embodiment of evil.
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And that's exactly right Unba, you have to know each other.

Karilyn, that's ridiculous. The people who are so closed minded that they think that Hitler was the only evil leader to start a genocide ever are the ones who are going to allow such atrocities to perpetuate.

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Crawfish wrote:Oh boy I missed this thread!

I really don't have much to add to the whole "partner/lifemate" thing, as I've only been in one gay relationship in my entire life, in high school, and we were both in the closet, so it was really awkward. However, I like to think that around my college, I would have little trouble saying "Oh, I'm gonna go grab lunch with Tuxedo Mask" or "Yeah Tuxedo Mask and I saw that movie." The only problem I have is that it sounds, uh, how do I put this...? Really gay. I mean, obviously, but you know. For some people it may be very un-masculine. No one's trying to cause any shit by saying it, they're just saying whatever makes them comfortable.

Dating: Also something I find completely awkward. I think it's very necessary, as the "oh hey we're friends so let's date" thing doesn't tend to work for me. I feel like I'm trying to be all cool and revolutionary talking about the gay male side of things, but I'm not. I have something that I like to call a "friend block" where if I'm friends with a guy, I don't find anything about him very attractive. See, this is kind of a problem when I'm friends with a gay guy and we have a lot in common. Dating allows you to show that you have romantic feelings for someone right off the bat. Naturally it should escalate into intense friendship, but that's just my two cents.
Karilyn wrote:I find it interesting how Hitler has become such a buzzword, that the history of the world is easily overlooked. There are dozens of genocides that were committed that were far more heinous than the ones committed by Hitler, yet he is the person everybody runs to mention when they think of evil, and any suggestion that someone else could have been more evil, is met with appallment.
It's just because he's the most "celebrated" villain. Everyone knows Hitler, and he's supposed to be our modern archetype for evil. There may have been others, but it's impossible to deny how intensely malign he really was.
I partly understand your point, one of my best friends are(is?) gay, and the mainstream of society is brutal towards them, its rather annoying :(
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Deiphobus wrote:But yeah, the person who banned you is an idiot. They just don't want to accept that their view of "justice", or "righteousness" could be wrong, or that there's something contradictory to their opinions.
Oh I know. Not even 30 minutes before he got screaming piss angry at me because I wanted to describe something as abstract, which didn't fall under the strict art school definition of abstract art. I'm well aware of the type of art form you idiot, I was using abstract as an adjective, not a category.

He proceeded to call me ignorant and stupid for nearly an hour in various ways. I spent the entire time laughing.
And are you going to answer my question?
I did. RightLeftRight quoted it.
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