The Big Cheese wrote: I'll admit, some can be bad. Like, shove down your throat bible thumpers or Jehovas Witness can be bad.
Thats not very fair. So all other religions can be tolerated except Jehovahs Witnesses who are bad-bible thumping people? I hope you didnt mean to generilize a religion like that.
Generally Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and most Catholics/Protestants are the main religions perceived as overly-judgmental/shove-it-down-your-throat evangelism-oriented. most other religions are less evangelism-based and therefore don't end up with those kind of negative outside perceptions.
i'm a strong Protestant myself, and if you understand our religion properly, you'd understand that any Bible-thumpers or obnoxious evangelists you run into are completely missing the points of humility and love that are central and essential to our religion.
I understand that, Im saying that if Darkserfer can tolerate Mormons, who like you said are gerneraly put into that catagory with Jehovahs Witness, why cant he say the same about Jehovahs Witness? I know all our experiences with either religions are different, but if they are pretty much the same, why are Jehovahs Witness only the bad-bible thumping people?
Jehovahs witness may feel more strongely about going door-to-door, which can be irritating, but its not that big of a deal. Its abot as irritating as gettting a call from a salesman and all you say is No Thanks.
The Big Cheese wrote: I'll admit, some can be bad. Like, shove down your throat bible thumpers or Jehovas Witness can be bad.
Context. Read the key words. There are more than just those, I was just quoting a couple more well-known examples. Scientology is another example of a bad religion, although not for just tolerance. All religions have bad people, but all religions can have good people. What you are stating makes it sound like "one bad apples ruins the whole bunch", which it doesn't.
The Big Cheese wrote: I'll admit, some can be bad. Like, shove down your throat bible thumpers or Jehovas Witness can be bad.
Thats not very fair. So all other religions can be tolerated except Jehovahs Witnesses who are bad-bible thumping people? I hope you didnt mean to generilize a religion like that.
Generally Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and most Catholics/Protestants are the main religions perceived as overly-judgmental/shove-it-down-your-throat evangelism-oriented. most other religions are less evangelism-based and therefore don't end up with those kind of negative outside perceptions.
i'm a strong Protestant myself, and if you understand our religion properly, you'd understand that any Bible-thumpers or obnoxious evangelists you run into are completely missing the points of humility and love that are central and essential to our religion.
That's why I love being Episcopalian. They're not judgmental, in fact, quite the opposite (In America, at least. Africa is where most of the extremism of the church lies). Hell, we have an openly gay bishop at the moment. The Episcopal church doesn't believe that the Bible is the only means though which you can learn to be a good person. They believe that your life experiences are also a part of what helps you understand your faith, so there's not really a heavy focus on scripture and stuff like that. Basically their approach is, "Be a good person above all else. Anything else you want to do, knock yourself out, I don't really care what you do." Plus they don't have the dogma that the Catholic church does, which I like.
tl;dr I like being Episcopalian because they have a very laissez-faire approach to faith.
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The Big Cheese wrote: I'll admit, some can be bad. Like, shove down your throat bible thumpers or Jehovas Witness can be bad.
Context. Read the key words. There are more than just those, I was just quoting a couple more well-known examples. Scientology is another example of a bad religion, although not for just tolerance. All religions have bad people, but all religions can have good people. What you are stating makes it sound like "one bad apples ruins the whole bunch", which it doesn't.
Thats not what Im saying. I know religions have bad and good people, thats why I said, our experiences are different with other religions.
Im questioning how and why Jehovahs Witness are "quoted well known examples of a bad religion".
And like I said, sure they do a lot of preaching work, but its not a big deal. Saying "shove down your throat bible thumpers" is a bit ecentric.
Karilyn wrote:I see nothing wrong with looking towards a future where religion is exterminated, and humanity finally is capable of achieving utopia.
Religion gives people hope, it gives people something to look up to when all the shit in the world is hitting the fan faster than flies can get to it.
It's something that ties people together, something that unites and inspires us.
Humanity always looks to someone else, divine or not, we are social beings that cannot be completely solitary or self-reliant.
