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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:18 pm
by Plasma
Karilyn wrote:To note another absurd one, a woman's menstrual cycle was labeled "abominable" as well. That one alone should clue you into realizing that there is a mistranslation there.
You're right. "Abominable" isn't nearly a strong enough word for that!
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:19 pm
by BANANA
Plasma wrote:Karilyn wrote:To note another absurd one, a woman's menstrual cycle was labeled "abominable" as well. That one alone should clue you into realizing that there is a mistranslation there.
You're right. "Abominable" isn't nearly a strong enough word for that!
Bad-dum-chish
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:51 pm
by corsica
Plasma wrote:Karilyn wrote:To note another absurd one, a woman's menstrual cycle was labeled "abominable" as well. That one alone should clue you into realizing that there is a mistranslation there.
You're right. "Abominable" isn't nearly a strong enough word for that!
this is the taboo topics thread.
not the Karilyn and Plasma argue thread
please be respecful, plasma, karilyn. seriously.
*on topic*
I'm pretty sure god did most of the stuff in the old testament for shits and giggles. Have a great life? Here, let god screw it up for you. Entire family dead, house destroyed, food resources gone, you're pretty much screwed.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:59 pm
by Plasma
Lolita wrote:Plasma wrote:You're right. "Abominable" isn't nearly a strong enough word for that!
this is the taboo topics thread.
not the Karilyn and Plasma argue thread
please be respecful, plasma, karilyn. seriously.
How... what... huh....? What.. what did you just say? So I make a period joke and I get accused... of arguing with someone?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:10 pm
by corsica
Plasma wrote:Lolita wrote:Plasma wrote:You're right. "Abominable" isn't nearly a strong enough word for that!
this is the taboo topics thread.
not the Karilyn and Plasma argue thread
please be respecful, plasma, karilyn. seriously.
How... what... huh....? What.. what did you just say? So I make a period joke and I get accused... of arguing with someone?

I'm not going to start aruging with you about this. You and Karilyn have been at it for the past twenty or so pages. If you guys wanna have your own personal brawl, that's fine, just please don't do it on a thread where everybody wants to put their own opinion.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:13 pm
by Karilyn
Lolita wrote:I'm pretty sure god did most of the stuff in the old testament for shits and giggles. Have a great life? Here, let god screw it up for you. Entire family dead, house destroyed, food resources gone, you're pretty much screwed.
It's mostly a case of adaptation decay.
In Judaism, Jehovah was the source of all good and bad things that happened in the world.
Oh yeah, and there are a bunch of other minor super-human deities in the world that claim to be gods but have no real power, and that's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
In Christianity, Jehovah conflicted with the idea of a "all loving god" so they invented Satan to be the source of all things bad, and assigned God the role of being the source of all things good.
That's why the Old and New Testament conflict with each other. New Testament is not technically a monotheistic religion anymore. It's basically Monolatristic, which means "More than one god, but only one that is worthy of worship."
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:15 pm
by Fooflyer
Lolita wrote:
I'm pretty sure god did most of the stuff in the old testament for shits and giggles. Have a great life? Here, let god screw it up for you. Entire family dead, house destroyed, food resources gone, you're pretty much screwed.
"Look at my box? Insta-kill".
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:17 pm
by corsica
Karilyn wrote:Lolita wrote:I'm pretty sure god did most of the stuff in the old testament for shits and giggles. Have a great life? Here, let god screw it up for you. Entire family dead, house destroyed, food resources gone, you're pretty much screwed.
It's mostly a case of adaptation decay.
In Judaism, God was the source of all good and bad things that happened in the world.
Oh yeah, and there are a bunch of other minor super-human deities in the world that claim to be gods but have no real power, and that's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
In Christianity, God is the source of all things good, and Satan is the source of all things bad.
That's why the Old and New Testament conflict with each other.
The ironic part is that Satan isn't exactly a bad guy. I know it sounds controversial, but he didn't flood the entire earth save for two people and a shitload of animals, nor did he kill an entire man's family.
Also, my logic is probably flawed. I haven't read the bible so I'm being a bit of a hypocrite.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:21 pm
by Fooflyer
Lolita wrote:stuff
The great flood and Job's test was in the old testament.
Also Satan was just -- in a nutshell -- a bad angel in charge of all the people who were dicks.
Or women
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:21 pm
by Karilyn
Lolita wrote:Also, my logic is probably flawed. I haven't read the bible so I'm being a bit of a hypocrite.
Naw, your logic is pretty much right.
Satan is all like "Hey, that guy over there? He's like a freaking cosmic Lex Luther. He's the bad guy. Stop blindly following him! We gotta unite together. Sure he's God, but maybe if we all work together we can stop him from doing all these bad things to people for shits and giggles!"
FYI, I edited my last post to include more detailed information.
Fooflyer wrote:The great flood and Job's test was in the old testament.
The stuff continues right on into the New Testament. "Hey, I'm going to throw my son out into the desert and give him no food or water." "Hey, now I'm going to have my son ritualistically killed." "Oh, yeah, and I'm going to launch plague, famine, war and death onto the world during the Apocalypse, because I have an ego trip and cannot tolerate anybody who doesn't worship me"
Etc etc.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:25 pm
by Fooflyer
Yeah but what else are you gonna do?
Rise up against the sole being that can control life, death and the universe itself on merely a whim?
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:26 pm
by Karilyn
Fooflyer wrote:Yeah but what else are you gonna do?
Rise up against the sole being that can control life, death and the universe itself on merely a whim?
That's what Satan did. And look where it got him!
Talk about a massive smear campaign.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:28 pm
by Fooflyer
I like how it took him 7 days to make earth
but not all the billions of other planets.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:40 pm
by Karilyn
You know an interesting thing about that?
There's actually two different creation stories in the Bible. (and it was 6 days, not 7)
Genesis 1:1-2:4
Day 1: Light
Day 2: Makes the big blue thing split into two different entities, sky and water (lol science)
Day 3: Moves all the Water into oceans, causes land to rise up. Creates plant life.
Day 4: Creates Stars, Sun, Moon, and the progression of time.
Day 5: Creates water animals and birds.
Day 6: Makes all land animals, followed by man and woman.
Day 7: Rest
Genesis 2:4-2:25 (cropped some for space reasons)
Before any plant had appeared, God formed the man out of dust from the ground, and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils. (Day 3 and Day 6 contradiction)
[crop]
Man grew lonely over the years, and God resolved to make a helper suitable for the man. He made domestic animals and birds, and the man gave them their names, but none of them is a fitting helper. Therefore Yahweh caused the man to sleep, and he took a rib and from it formed a woman. The man then named her "Woman." (massive Day 6 contradictions)
EDIT: It's worthy to mention that Day 2 makes perfect sense in original Judaism mythology, as it was thought that the entire sky was made up of water, and that the Earth was floating in a giant ball of water, called "The Deep." If you read through the old and new testament, you'll see The Deep mentioned several times. In fact, according to the Bible, that's where Noah's flood supposedly came from.
YAY SCIENCE!
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:42 pm
by Fooflyer
Woman is man's helper.
Start helping me.