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Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:22 am
by Tatzel
Seeing Chopstix avatar just now reminded me that I completely forgot to make an easter drawings thread, wow

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it'll be like that dude from scanners

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:16 am
by Exeres
Either allergies have been compounded onto my sore throat, or I've just straight-up got the flu.

Whatever it is, my nose is completely blocked and my head feels like it's about to explode. I'm thinking about calling in but I know I won't.

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:34 am
by Nachalnik
i had a really hard time sleeping when i had my cold and now i'm getting over it my sleeping pattern is really messed up and i keep sleeping in until the afternoon

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:01 pm
by Reyo
Guy honked at me to move from where his car was gonna be in 50 feet, because how dare I infringe on a man's right to drag race out of a McDonalds drive through. It's not like I would've been out of your way by the time you got to where I was. But honking to make me stop and ask what the noise I heard was makes sense to...

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:56 pm
by shazza
people who make fun of/berate people for their accents have made me mad today. why do people do this? what part of that makes them think it's ok? i especially hear it around here with ask/axe, and the whole "wait do you want to axe me or ask me" and just WOW RUDE. you might have well said ching chong to a chinese guy or tell a black person to "speak better" and "stop being lazy." go fuck yourself.

i'm cajun. i had a very strong cajun accent. when i moved to texas i bodaciously LOST MY ACCENT ON PURPOSE because everyone made fun of how i talked. i forced myself to talk like everyone else because i was sick of being picked on for the way i formed sounds. i lost all my colloquial sayings because nobody understood me and nobody was willing to understand what i meant. when i moved to texas i was 6. SIX.

you might not like how it sounds - hell i hate southern drawl accents, they drive me nuts - but for the love of god THEY CAN'T HELP IT DON'T POINT IT OUT OR MAKE FUN OF THEM FOR IT.

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:26 pm
by Chopstix
i love cajun dialects and i wish i was better at one but, I understand how you feel. I like my southern dialect but people really just think you're stupid when you have it so I've had to shift to more of a monotone middle voice for myself. They also hate southern dialect in theatre unless the piece calls for it

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:39 pm
by Cori
A lot of my relatives live in Georgia or Arkansas so they have really heavy accents. Two of them, I think my aunts (I don't know any of my relatives that well), were trying to get jobs as newscasters and they had to be trained to speak without their drawl.

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:00 pm
by scebboaliwiw
This is pretty late but I really do feel like the people saying "you shouldn't picket Fred Phelps funeral and forgive him instead", or anyone who says "hate breeds more hate", or anything like that are either desperately trying to defend their shitty behavior or desperately trying to look mature without actually thinking about anything. How is it mature to encourage and accommodate injustice? And do you think people fought for women's suffrage via love for inequality? How about instead of saying "turn the other cheek" you say "pardoning the bad is injuring the good", or instead of saying "an eye for an eye and the whole world will be blind" you just don't get rid of the first eye in the first place?

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:15 pm
by TheStranger
scebboaliwiw wrote:This is pretty late but I really do feel like the people saying "you shouldn't picket Fred Phelps funeral and forgive him instead", or anyone who says "hate breeds more hate", or anything like that are either desperately trying to defend their shitty behavior or desperately trying to look mature without actually thinking about anything. How is it mature to encourage and accommodate injustice? And do you think people fought for women's suffrage via love for inequality? How about instead of saying "turn the other cheek" you say "pardoning the bad is injuring the good", or instead of saying "an eye for an eye and the whole world will be blind" you just don't get rid of the first eye in the first place?
Its an extension of the faulty martyr logic that guides a lot of western morality. Basically, the tactic is to unload all the responsibility on the victim so THEY will look like assholes for not forgiving the people who abuse them, in an effort to preserve the status quo. If the abused would actually rise up and hit back when harmed, that would set a precedent when said damage is caused by people in power as well. Another thing is when you are shouted down if you dare "speak ill of the dead", no matter what kind of horrendous prick is being buried. Nobody wants victims to ever be anything other than toothless, weeping sadsacks, because seeing actual anger and outrage is too negative, and people dont want to deal with real negative emotion.

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:20 pm
by Cori
The thing is that there's a fundamental difference between hate and anger. Hate doesn't do anything for a cause, but justified anger--such as the anger women had over not being able to vote--is what fuels movements for human rights.

This is the fundamental problem I've been having lately with the 'tumblr' social justice movements. Instead of being angry and fighting for a cause, I usually only see blind, driveling hatred towards a group as a whole. I've seen people receive death threats for being ignorant about a movement or simply because they're a part of a majority group (IE heterosexual people, cisgendered people, etc.). That's not an okay thing to do.

That being said, Fred Phelps and his followers don't deserve forgiveness. They haven't asked for it and they haven't done anything to earn it anyways.



Also, fun fact: the term 'turn the other cheek' originally meant that you were putting yourself on equal ground with the person striking you.
"If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also" -Matt 5:39
This specifically refers to a hand striking the side of a person’s face, tells quite a different story when placed in it’s proper historical context. In Jesus’s time, striking someone of a lower class ( a servant) with the back of the hand was used to assert authority and dominance. If the persecuted person “turned the other cheek,” the discipliner was faced with a dilemma. The left hand was used for unclean purposes, so a back-hand strike on the opposite cheek would not be performed. Another alternative would be a slap with the open hand as a challenge or to punch the person, but this was seen as a statement of equality. Thus, by turning the other cheek the persecuted was in effect putting an end to the behavior or if the slapping continued the person would lawfully be deemed equal and have to be released as a servant/slave.
It's not really relevant to the point you were trying to make but I thought it might be cool to know.

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:23 pm
by TheStranger
Actually, from what I understand, hate is an excellent motivator, it can keep you going even when every other resource is exhausted. Tumblr idiots arent even hateful, they're just morons who's attention was caught by something they momentarely identify with.

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:27 pm
by scebboaliwiw
And how about when people say you can't do Entirely Harmless Action X because of someone else's reaction to it? Well, they better stop that then. And if they're refusing to stop then well, they better stop that then.

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:31 pm
by Cori
I'm not really sure what you're referring to, sceb, but death threats like I mentioned in my other post aren't harmless.

Venting about things is harmless, yeah, and I understand the "I hate X group" in the heat of the moment. I've done it myself. Telling people not to vent, or coming in with things like "not all X are like that" doesn't contribute anything to a conversation. It's really a matter of picking your battles.

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:44 pm
by Reyo
If someone is able to make themselves look like the victim, they'll take that opportunity. Everywhere I look, I see propaganda about not allowing a "victimized culture" to continue, but then shit like this happens.

That's precisely why we have this culture.

We need to stop romanticizing the role of "victim", and we need to stop trying to prevent people from standing up for themselves. People aren't weak because they felt wronged by someone, and are trying to make it stop.

People have felt wronged by the WBC protesting funerals, and for good reason. They're not assholes for wanting to stand up for themselves with respect to that feeling. Given, there are still laws, but we don't have to advocate murder, assault, arson, and other shitty things as revenge. Revenge, and positive punishment are different things entirely.

Re: Things that piss you off

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:07 am
by SaintCrazy
People who feel victimized, but only react with blind hatred/cruelty/prejudice/being a dick, are only hurting their cause immensely.

It makes me think of all the people who make fun of "feminists" because they've only seen the crazy people who want to kick men out of society and stuff. It breeds more ignorance and just creates an Us vs. Them mentality instead of provoking an actual meaningful discussion about what they were so angry about to begin with.

Their anger may be for justifiable reasons, but that doesn't excuse their angry, hateful behavior. Being angry about something doesn't make you an asshole. Your actions, regardless of the reasons behind them, are what can make you an asshole. Picketing a funeral is a pretty assholish thing to do no matter who you are.

The people who felt wronged by WBC are justifiably angry. But picketing anyone's funeral is not an appropriate or effective retaliation. Punishing an asshole by acting like an asshole to them simply does not work. That's what stuff like "hate breeds hate" refers to. There are plenty of ways to express your outrage over something without being hateful or worsening the problem you started with. Tell people about it, spread awareness, show people WHY what they did was wrong and demand justice, not revenge.