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I don't advocate his murder.

Just his brutal beating and left for death. Straight up murder is way too quick.

And when I come out with a book or something feel free to not buy it. Otherwise I feel pretty okay with wanting a guy dead who would actively fights for an entire group of people to be constantly and forever treated as less than human.
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If you want him dead then you want pretty much every Mormon dead, since that's where his beliefs are coming from. That's a little over six million people in the USA alone. Not to mention however many Christians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics.

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I've met Mormons who are okay with same-sex marriage. There's quite a few of them, much like quite a few Christians, who feel that while they don't agree with homosexuality, they agree less that what they feel is sinful should mean people lose rights. Mormonism isn't a group, it's a religion, with different people acting on it.

So, no. I don't want every Mormon dead.

But Card goes beyond just homophobia and into a realm of hate that is not exactly heard of by sane individuals. How many people do you know who hate a group enough to say that armed revolution should occur if they gain human rights? The man exemplifies and seems to enjoy hate. I don't have much hope for him. If he did, just all out of nowhere, suddenly reform, with clear changes in his personality? Whatever, past is past.

However seeing as he has not, my opinion of him isn't going to change.
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You are equating the right to marry to all of human rights, which kills your argument.

Card is not denying gays human rights, he wants to deny them the right to marry, which is a subset of those rights. By your argument gays don't have the right to vote, hold property, be free, or any of the other human rights and Card wants to deny them all of that. That is what you are bodaciously saying when you mention he wants to deny them human rights and that's just plain ignorance at best or fearmongering at worst.
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I've been using the one example because it's what I feel is his most extreme, but I'm not overexaggerating or fearmongering. Card bodaciously wants to deny all same-sex rights. He has bodaciously said that homosexuals cannot be allowed to be treated as equal citizens.
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Hating a person for the bad shit they do is alright, but hating the cool things they have done just because you hate the bad shit they do is not okay.
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I never said the book or movie were bad.

I just said that I think the idea of him getting cheddar for them is horrible and disgusts me.
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Barabba wrote:Hating a person for the bad shit they do is alright, but hating the cool things they have done just because you hate the bad shit they do is not okay.
No, you know what, fine, just throw cheddar at the guy, who cares about the horrible shit he says and that he actively gives cheddar to anti gay organizations, as long as you get to feel entertained. And who cares if Mel Gibson is a raging anti semite, he makes movies you want to watch. Sure, Chick-Fil-A is affiliated with one of the worst religious fundamentalist groups in the western world, but who cares as long as you can stuff your face? The slightest bit of sacrifice is an impossible hurdle, no matter what your cheddar ends up supporting.

Just... god, Im tired of arguing about this. But here it is, AGAIN. You are giving these fuckers cheddar, which encourages them to continue doing their horrible shit. No matter how you put it, thats what happens. If you dont give a shit about what they say and do because it doesnt affect you, SAY IT, dont built up rationalizations for why its totally cool to support a bigot because he's an okay writer.
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If only theatres were like humble sales, you could get what you want, and still stiff the creator.
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You could treat dollar theatres like that, if you want.

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Can't even watch movies without getting sweaty palms due to my fear of heights.

This is pathetic.

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What, are you watching a movie in a really high place or something?
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Gryewolf wrote:What, are you watching a movie in a really high place or something?
As exciting as that is, no. I was just watching someone hang onto a dragon trying to kill it.

Even fictional heights give me sweaty palms.

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