AWKWARD ZOMBIE

Yes, such topic should go in Taboo Topics right away - if there is a discussion to be had.

Syobon wrote:

SaintCrazy wrote:I don't mean to sound all "vehemently against the TST's existence", but I really just don't see the benefit of keeping it around.

Just debating the guidelines for it is getting heated. Why not just remove the problem entirely?

It was originally created because the funny picture thread got flooded with text.

I know that, I was around when it got made, but is having TLDR stuff in Funny Pics really worse than having (almost) a whole thread turn into making fun of people on the internet? That's become the expectation for stuff that's posted there. Funny Pics on the other hand has the expectation of "stuff that makes you laugh", not "stuff that makes you rage at humanity". Deleting TST would just be a really easy way to get rid of some of that mindset about what kind of text to post. Will it get rid of these situations entirely, by itself? No, but it's an easy start and I think it would accomplish a lot for the small amount of effort it would take.

I do agree that the problem can be solved if everyone is more mature about it, but there's the question of how to enforce these things, where lines are drawn, what's considered too "heated" and expecting everyone to control themselves all the time. Ideally it'd be the best solution, but is it practical? We ultimately can't control what other people post or say. I do think people should know to do the right thing, but to regulate that thread correctly would require changing the mindset of a lot of people who post there regularly.

Trying to force a "culture" of respect and maturity is a noble goal, but we're just a forum on the internet. We can enforce explicit rules, but it's very difficult to change people's habits and mindsets on the "borderline" stuff, or to say "use good judgement" because you will inevitably run into disagreements as to what that means.

I'm totally supportive of trying to encourage good behavior, I trust that the proletariats can handle this just fine, but my two cents is that it seems like a lot of effort for some unknown results. Is deleting the thread a better solution? I honestly don't know, but it is definitely easier, and I think more low-risk; losing the TST thread is not a big loss, whereas going back to the way things were is not a good situation for anyone, even if there's only, say, a 50% chance of that happening.

Also if you're gonna post tl;dr stuff in any thread please

dumb it down as much as you can

because I am stupid and I get confused when I have to look at posts that are really long and complicated and half the time I am just lost.

It would be MUCH APPRECIATED but I understand if you can't c:

The issue isn't the thread. The issue is people arguing their points when really we could all just agree to disagree and move on. If a mod has to tell people to stop, then it's already too heated. I don't think it's much to ask for that people drop a subject when asked politely, by a mod or otherwise.

Here's how it works:
A mod asks nicely that you guys stop or you guys move to the appropriate thread.
You don't: Mod asks a bit more forcefully that everyone move on and then PMs the notable parties with an explanation/request/warning.
People continue to disobey: Bans get distributed along with a PM specifying the reason for and the length of the ban.


Also, I said 'foster' not 'force'. We need to foster a culture of maturity. Means we all take part in not acting like babies so the proletariats don't have to work so hard.
People will learn what's appropriate, if they don't deleting a thread isn't gonna stop them from being stupid or offensive. Which are what bans are for.

Locking a thread is still a lot of work as proletariats then need to explain to everyone why it was locked and still dole out appropriate punishments. If they don't offer explanations etc people can still continue to argue on any other thread. If we locked threads every time people disagreed we'd have zero threads.

We're not gonna delete stuff except grossly inappropriate/ illegal stuff.

I'm going to apologise, dudes. sorry

Is it just me or is the moderator green different?

(don't double post - proletariats)

I ACCIDENTALLY MADE KATIE GREEN WHILE TRYING TO MAKE RIKU A MOD I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M SO CONFUSED WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO THE THINGS BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WEBSITES WORK HHHH

ALSO DON'T DOUBLE POST

it's funny because loli yelled at Great Handsome Oppressor b/c she thought him editing tatzel's post looked mean when she double posted
but your double post doesn't break the rules
A+ moderating job Lolita

I DID THE THING I SAID DON'T DOUBLE POST THEN I EDITED IT I DID THE THING OKAY
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but...it didn't break the rules.

I'M A MESS RIGHT NOW OKAY YOU DO THE THING IM GONNA GO AND CRY

AUGHHHHHH

i'm the worst mod im sorry

IM SORRY RUNES I'M SORRY EVERYBODY I'M JUST TRYING TO DO A THING AND I'M SO BAD AT EVERYTHING