Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

[Reyo]

You guys have to remember that there's what legal, and what's moral. Like is it legal to tell your Dad to go fuck himself if he needs a kidney? Hell yes it is, but the people who know about it will see you as a colossal douchebag. Usually the law reflects morals, but this is a case (along with abortion) where it's a bit blurry. Like a good chunk of people will look down at you if they find out you've had an abortion. Not most people, just a good chunk of people. Another good chunk will make sure not to judge until they find out it was because you were irresponsible and just didn't want the baby, and the other won't give a shit.

I think the main issue with either argument is that they try to demonize the other side, the pro-lifers by saying pro-choicers are irresponsible sex maniacs, and the pro-choicers by saying that pro-lifers are sexist assholes.

[Barabba]

Quick question - If a god impregnates someone without their consent, would it be considered a "rape" or a "miracle"?

[Valbrandur]

Depends on whom you ask really. I'm sure the god's followers (or at least some of them) would call it a miracle while those who look at it objectively might call it rape.

The opinion of it might depend a bit on the god as well. Such as the nature of the god, his morality, intentions and how it reflects in the offspring.

[TheStranger]

Quick question - If a god impregnates someone without their consent, would it be considered a "rape" or a "miracle"?

Considering how higher up God is compared to humans, its more like beastiality than anything else

[Barabba]

Quick question - If a god impregnates someone without their consent, would it be considered a "rape" or a "miracle"?

Considering how higher up God is compared to humans, its more like beastiality than anything else

Or like a human making robots to make love to.

[SaintCrazy]

Quick question - If a god impregnates someone without their consent, would it be considered a "rape" or a "miracle"?

For the record the virgin Mary gave her consent to fulfill the word of God when the angel came and told her what she needed to do.

[Barabba]

Huh, must have forgotten about that part. Christianity checks out in that regard.
Giving an entire city a literal golden shower to impregnate a princess locked up in a tower would be a rape, then? Or a miracle?

[Rinoko]

Quick question - If a god impregnates someone without their consent, would it be considered a "rape" or a "miracle"?

Considering how higher up God is compared to humans, its more like beastiality than anything else

Or like a human making robots to make love to.

OK, this needs to stop right now.

I don't care if you say that you don't believe in it yourself, but don't freaking mock other people's beliefs.

[TheStranger]

So dissention is okay as long as you never ever point out faults in other peoples beliefs, because it'll hurt their feelings?

Actually, now that I think of it, since humans are Gods children, isnt Jesus technically the result of incest?

[Rinoko]

You can think whatever you want about other people's religions, but you can choose to not be a jackass about it.

[SaintCrazy]

I can see the simile in the robot statement, although the whole "sexbot" idea is rather ridiculous in itself, so I can also see how that would be seen as derogatory.

The real question is, why would you try to compare a religious event/belief to rape, when the belief itself doesn't describe it that way? Ending up miraculously pregnant is very different from being subjected to unwanted sexual contact.

Oh, and if humans are all God's children, everyone is the result of incest. Heck, if we all came from a common ancestor, everyone is the result of incest.

You really can't apply those descriptors to religious beliefs. They describe themselves. If the belief says it isn't rape or some other unsavory thing, then it isn't because the belief made the exception for that case, as long as you believe it.

[Cori]

I really hate it when people ask loaded questions about Christianity, like you're trying to test my system of belief to make sure it 'checks out' to you. If it was an honest question, I wouldn't mind, but that wasn't an honest question. It was a test.

And comparing God's relationship with His followers to bestiality? Yeah, thanks for that slap in the face. That was completely inappropriate and uncalled for.

[TheStranger]

Since all my questions about any faith ever tends to eventually boil down to "because we feel its like that" in one way or another, Ive grown a bit jaded about it.

[Madican]

There's a difference between jaded and jackass.

[SaintCrazy]

Nothing wrong with having any particular "feel" or perspective on the world, though. Unless that perspective involves hurting people or whatnot.