The Pokemon thread

Plasma · Post by **Plasma** » Tue May 18, 2010 11:43 am

I completely and totally support him becoming grass/steel!

Or even better, steel/steel!

Also, he's not gonna become Grass/Dragon. Aside from that it's a bit on the overpowered side, the fact that Sceptile, a dragon-like Pokemon, was pure grass proves this.

Fooflyer · Post by **Fooflyer** » Tue May 18, 2010 12:04 pm

I'm aware I'm late, but isn't Quetzalcoatl the feathered snake, not the winged one?

fuck yeah sunny day would be a whole new meaning

Silver_Wolf · Post by **Silver_Wolf** » Tue May 18, 2010 12:48 pm

Saria wrote:
Silver_Wolf wrote:It has an advantage over the other starters is what I was mainly looking at...
Well, if the water one became Water/Ice...

Speaking of a water/ice starter. Anyone else feel that Empoleon should have been water/ice instead of water/steel? It would make more sense considering what it is. Or did they don't do that due to it would have ice do x4.5 damage to Torterra?

Decker · Post by **Decker** » Tue May 18, 2010 12:51 pm

I frankly don't care about starters vs starters

I care about starters vs THE REST OF THE GAME

Who gives a shit if they don't rock/paper/scissors each other, I rarely fight any other starters ever.

Silver_Wolf · Post by **Silver_Wolf** » Tue May 18, 2010 12:53 pm

Try telling that to last generation.

Decker · Post by **Decker** » Tue May 18, 2010 1:02 pm

Gen 3/4 are where I lost interest. HG/SS has recaptured my interest. So I don't care about last generation

Also pro tip: HG/SS didn't have dual-typing starters either

Plasma · Post by **Plasma** » Tue May 18, 2010 1:03 pm

Silver_Wolf wrote: Speaking of a water/ice starter. Anyone else feel that Empoleon should have been water/ice instead of water/steel? It would make more sense considering what it is.

Yeah... they're not going to make a Pokemon an ice type just because the animal it's based on lives in the Antartic.

Plus, I think they just really wanted to make a Water/Steel type!

Silver_Wolf wrote:x4.5 damage

Okay, considering that attacks do either x1/2, x1, or x2 damage against certain types...

...how the hell did you get x4.5 from it?!

TheOtherMC · Post by **TheOtherMC** » Tue May 18, 2010 1:03 pm

Pro Tip: HG/SS is the only gen WITHOUT a dual-type starter.

DoNotDelete · Post by **DoNotDelete** » Tue May 18, 2010 1:12 pm

Plasma wrote:
Silver_Wolf wrote: Speaking of a water/ice starter. Anyone else feel that Empoleon should have been water/ice instead of water/steel? It would make more sense considering what it is.
Yeah... they're not going to make a Pokemon an ice type just because the animal it's based on lives in the Antartic.

Not all penguins live in the Antarctic.

Fooflyer wrote:I'm aware I'm late, but isn't Quetzalcoatl the feathered snake, not the winged one?

There's a lot of different interpretations of Quetzalcoatl, I'm just suggesting it's a possibility for Tsutaja's evolution.

Silver_Wolf · Post by **Silver_Wolf** » Tue May 18, 2010 1:16 pm

Plasma wrote:
Silver_Wolf wrote:x4.5 damage
Okay, considering that attacks do either x1/2, x1, or x2 damage against certain types...

...how the hell did you get x4.5 from it?!

Grass and Ground are both weak to ice attacks. STAB damage x.5 damage.
x1/2 is not very effective against one resistance.
x1/4 is not very effective against two resistances.
x1, you are not getting any weaknesses or STAB damage.
x2 damage is when you hit one weakness without STAB damage.
x4 is when you hit two weaknesses without STAB damage.
x4.5 is two weaknesses with STAB damage.

If Empoleon was part ice and used an ice attack against Torterra, then it would receive x4.5 damage from the attack.
Here I'll even add Torterra's page from bulbpedia:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/ ... 3%A9mon%29

Decker · Post by **Decker** » Tue May 18, 2010 1:26 pm

Plasma

How on earth didn't you know about STAB and dual typing weaknesses?

Silver_Wolf · Post by **Silver_Wolf** » Tue May 18, 2010 1:30 pm

Fun fact:
Did you know if the first generation, fire types received x1 damage from ice type attacks? This meant that if an ice attack was used on Charizard, it would be super effective due to it being part flying type.

TheOtherMC · Post by **TheOtherMC** » Tue May 18, 2010 2:53 pm

I found that out on my first Elite 4 run. Good times

Silver_Wolf · Post by **Silver_Wolf** » Tue May 18, 2010 2:57 pm

TheOtherMC wrote:I found that out on my first Elite 4 run. Good times

Me: Alright the Elite Four! With my team of Charizard, Articuno, Nidoqueen I shall win the day!
*first room*
Me: Ice types! Charizard GO!
Charizard: Rawr!
Jynx used ice beam!
It was super effective!
Charizard faints.
Me: What? T_T

Alexandy13 · Post by **Alexandy13** » Tue May 18, 2010 3:27 pm

I think the starters have a slight personality pattern

The cool looking one everyone wants
The cute looking one all the girls want
The average Joe everyone else gets.