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Madican wrote:He is not "some random guy" he is the primary antagonist.
I know, but what gives him the power to do that? The spirits? Really?

It just seems to me his power is more to fool the populace and run the city mafia-style than actual spiritual power. I could be wrong, but I'm still wondering why everyone seemed to accept that he was for real without question.
Maybe for the fact that they can bend one minute but not the next? And he didn't use conventional chi-blocking either. I think he did it exactly the way Aang did during the fight with Ozi.
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SaintCrazy wrote:
Madican wrote:He is not "some random guy" he is the primary antagonist.
I know, but what gives him the power to do that? The spirits? Really?

It just seems to me his power is more to fool the populace and run the city mafia-style than actual spiritual power. I could be wrong, but I'm still wondering why everyone seemed to accept that he was for real without question.
I don't think the point is really that his power comes from the spirits. He could be lying about that. I'm going to assume his powers are real because that would make him able to confront the Avatar directly, which would make for a really tense atmosphere.

I did see one really cool related theory that says
Amon is working with Koh the Face Stealer, which is how he got his powers. He didn't really lose his face to a firebender, but actually traded it to Koh for the ability to take away bending. He wanted to overthrow all of the nations and neutralize the Avatar, but basically establish himself as leader rather than obtain equality.

I think that would be really neat if it were true or at least related in some way.

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Minus the blinding light and crazy cosmic stuff, though. I'm saying maybe it was just temporary, or reversible.

Could be that since he's not a bender he doesn't have to deal with the spirit-corruption or whatever Aang had to overcome to do it. Still, that really seems like the kind of thing only an Avatar can do, and even then it was an incredible feat. How does a non-bender end up with that sort of power? It just seems more likely to me that it's not the full version of that power.

That is an interesting theory Avengifier. The idea of evil spirits wasn't really covered much in the last series, so that would be interesting to see their hand in events, especially since Aang got that same power from a spirit too (I think it counts as a spirit).
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The primary requirement of using Spiritbending is having an unbendable spirit. In other words, being firm in yourself to the point of being able to withstand any kind of opposition. It tends to correlate to extremely high levels of spiritualism, which would back up him being able to even talk to Koh in that theory. I don't think he lost his face though, because Koh steals a face if it reacts to him, but I don't know about any bargains he could do.
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Maybe I'm nitpicking, But Koh usually steals the face, eyes, nose, mouth, and all whenever he takes a face.
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I dunno how a stolen face would appear in the regular world though. We only saw a spirit-world monkey with no face, and we know the last Water Avatar lost his wife's face, but we don't know what exactly happened to her - I feel like its implied that she died.

Maybe a stolen face could translate to a disfigured face, who knows.
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I thought it was implied that if Koh stole your spirit's face, you died, or at the very least were stuck in the spirit realm as a faceless entity (hence the one faceless monkey, unless humans and animals have different rules to abide by).

Also in regards to "How can such an unassuming person (in regards to no bending) be able to have such power?" I wouldn't say that his background is enough for his claims to be false. After all, it makes sense for him to have such incredible power. Antagonists are antagonists because they go against the beliefs of the protagonist and they have the ability to pose a legitimate threat. Amon has the power, he has the motivation, and he clearly has the will to achieve his goal.

You mentioned that Aang's spiritbending was an incredible feat. Well, so was bending lightning for firebenders. So was Toph's metalbending - hell, she invented it. Yet now you see an entire police force capable of bending metal, and multitudes of firebenders using their lightning to power generators. While you can argue that none of them were the Avatar, if something happens once it's bound to happen again. Maybe spiritbending has nothing to do with actual bending, or it's such a rare, difficult to detect bending ability (due to the lack of any physical evidence) that those born with it never even realize. After all, Aang has the ability to learn to bend all the elements, so who is to say spiritbending isn't a naturally occuring ability that he could learn?


Don't get me wrong, I like your theory but it seems a bit predictable. I'd like it if the writers went full-force with it, and I'd like to see what their explanation is.

My favorite funny moment this episode was definitely when Korra punted the two little girls with her earthbending. "Teehee, so do you like him, or do you LIIIIIIIIIKE hi-" PUNT.

Did anyone else notice the statue of Zuko that was in the square where Bolin hung out?
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[Insert Fail] wrote: Did anyone else notice the statue of Zuko that was in the square where Bolin hung out?
Did you also notice the difference between:

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and:

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Ozai's statue is all about showing off his firebending as power and his way of domination. Zuko shows his firebending as a guiding light. I like these subtle touches.

Also, I actually thought about Amon being linked to Koh as well. His mask isn't much evidence, but it does make me think I'm right. When talking to Koh it was very important not to show any expressions. Amon's mask is, basically, expressionless. He doesn't quite laugh or frown. This combined with dropping the part about 'losing his face' only strengthened my suspicion.
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I didn't even think of the part about Koh.
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I like speculation because no matter how long we carry on this theory there's like a 90% chance it'll be something completely different

but we'll still love it.
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Found this interesting series of Tumblr posts theorizing about Amon's spirit/energybending. Their claim is more along the lines of SaintCrazy - that it's a hoax and form of chi-blocking. The argument's a fun read.
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So the season finale of Young Justice is tomorrow. Is anybody else gonna watch it?
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Watching ThunderCats on DVR right now. It's awesome.
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Just saw last night's episode of Transformer's Prime. It was pretty awesome. Megatron decided to fuel the ship with Dark Energon, which gave the ship a mind of its own.

Also, it looks like they'll be heading to Manhattan, because there are some powerful artifacts there.

Has anybody else been watching Transformer's Prime?
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There's this new show premiering on Disney XD tomorrow called Motor City. It has the creators of Megas XLR and Metalocalypse working on it.

Disney XD also has a new upcoming series called Tron: Uprising. The visuals are fantastic, as they should be.
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