Syobon wrote:I get your second point, but not your first. Humanity losing could make for a very strong ending in fiction, if done right.
True. But the thing about this movie is that it's monkeys (primates whatever) beating humanity. And I don't like monkeys, so I'm not going to be supporting them.
And honestly I find Caesar to just be a little prick. Sure he's super-intelligent and has been relegated to an enclosure because he's a monkey, but that doesn't make for a good justification for enhancing other apes and making them his own personal army. That's what villains do.
Marcato wrote:Someone should tell me how Deathly Hallows Part 2 was. I've been hearing different things from different people.
I saw it twice and wasn't blown away by it either time. It just felt very unsettling to me, one scene EXTREMELY so. It's not that I didn't like or even enjoy it, I just don't feel it was this perfect thing everyone else seems to.
I guess I just like it when the good guys lose sometimes. It is more refreshing and tragic when they do. Thats one of the reasons I liked Pan's Labyrinth so much. It was shocking.
And I saw the Lord of the Rings movies before I read the books, and during the climax I was actually hoping that Frodo would die. Not because I didn't like him, but because it would have made the journey all the more painful for the other characters, and it would have shown that Frodo's total dedication to destroying the Ring, at all costs, even if it took his life.
Everybody else I knew said that would be stupid though. But I think it would have made a nice bittersweet ending. Where ultimately the good side won, but at a great cost.
Now I know what you mean about RotPotA (daisies thats long) not really being a surprise because everyone knows the outcome, but I still want to see if because if done right, it could still be a interesting story that keeps you interested in how events unfold, and how the Apes managed to overthrow humanity.
I have a friend who hates monkeys with a passion though, so I know he won't want to go see it.
Also, Deathly Hallows was amazing, but I am a hardcore fan. But I've been hearing from people who aren't fans that it was still a really fun movie and done really well, just a bit confusing if you aren't familiar with the rest of the books/movies.
Explotaro wrote:I'm a big fan, not hardcore. Even though the movie was 2 hours, it seemed shorter.
(My only real complaint.)
By hardcore I mean having a two-day movie party at your house, inviting everyone you know, and buying a wizard robe and wand to prepare for the Part Two. I know someone who did that.
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I think the serious problem with the movie comes from the fact that it came in two parts, making the second half basically a two hour long climax (I credit Vax with that observation). It's...fucking exhausting to watch the movie go balls to the wall for two hours straight. My serious problem comes from when Harry ends up in train station heaven right at the end of the movie. The ridiculously terrible green screen of him standing up to the the vast, empty white space was SO jarring. It pulled me right out of the story and kept me out for the rest of it. I know that's "how it was in the book", but it just did not transfer well into film. That's just one guys opinion though. I'm not a hardcore Harry Potter fan by any means, and it's not to say I didn't enjoy it. I simply maintain that it being broken into two parts damaged the second part.
The train scene in the book was just a normal train station. No special effects whatsoever. They could have shot that entire scene in King's Cross and nothing would have been lost because of it.
Syobon wrote:I get your second point, but not your first. Humanity losing could make for a very strong ending in fiction, if done right.
True. But the thing about this movie is that it's monkeys (primates whatever) beating humanity. And I don't like monkeys, so I'm not going to be supporting them.
And honestly I find Caesar to just be a little prick. Sure he's super-intelligent and has been relegated to an enclosure because he's a monkey, but that doesn't make for a good justification for enhancing other apes and making them his own personal army. That's what villains do.
I don't even see how the monkeys can possibly win. It's one force in California right? They didn't become impervious to weapons with the intelligence, so with the U.S. as is, it just doesn't even look like something that would ever be remotely possible.
Syobon wrote:I get your second point, but not your first. Humanity losing could make for a very strong ending in fiction, if done right.
True. But the thing about this movie is that it's monkeys (primates whatever) beating humanity. And I don't like monkeys, so I'm not going to be supporting them.
And honestly I find Caesar to just be a little prick. Sure he's super-intelligent and has been relegated to an enclosure because he's a monkey, but that doesn't make for a good justification for enhancing other apes and making them his own personal army. That's what villains do.
I don't even see how the monkeys can possibly win. It's one force in California right? They didn't become impervious to weapons with the intelligence, so with the U.S. as is, it just doesn't even look like something that would ever be remotely possible.
Because the military in the movie is absolutely incompetent. No really.
Always irks me when that trope gets put into play.
Watching a movie on Netflix Streaming called "Wristcutters: A Love Story". Netflix told me I was going to like it and I rarely question what they tell me.
