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WILL THE ALMIGHTY wrote:
hazenmire wrote:Nice Almighty. Cho'Gath can be such an insane hero.

Last night I popped on, havent played in weeks, got on my main (Nasus) I died a few times in the beginning of the game due to my lane buddy (an actually very good Ezereal or w/e his name is) being completely flaky in his attendance. I'd die from getting double teamed (A warwick and a snow yeti guy, cant remember his name) then look and see him at the shop. Then he'd be in the lane, I'd spawn and show up again, we'd push em back and just as we get to the tower I start pushing heavily and of course I would die, look at my minimap and where is he again? AT THE SHOP! >:| If he didnt flake out just as we gained momentum we would have most likely killed both of em and gotten the tower much sooner.

Then he finally left the game after I died for the 4th time. Because he was no longer in game I couldn't count on him so I started playing more cautiously.
In the end my team won, despite the 4v5 and me feeding my lane opponents in the beginning. I ended up carrying the team with 12 kills, 6 deaths, and 4 tower kills.
Best comeback. I hardly ever see a Nasus carry.

Anyone here play Udyr? Is he any good?
Udyr is really hard, he's all timing and quick switching. At least someone here plays him. Also, I used to use Nasus, he can be a crazy motherfucker if you get siphon strike up high enough, taking out huge chunks of heath and popping that ultimate to run right through towers.

Also, I fucking love Cho'gath, but god forbid if I fight a hero with a slow or stun. For some reason I either kill absolutely everything and never die, 18 kill streak, 3 tower kills and we steam rolled that team, or I die a whole fucking lot and we lose.

I've been looking into fast melee heroes, what do you guys think of Xin, Jax or maybe a melee assassin like Akali or Fiddlesticks.

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Playing as Soraka means Shoolis never dies.
And maybe my teammates don't die either if I feel like it.
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Crush Bandicoot wrote:I've been looking into fast melee heroes, what do you guys think of Xin, Jax or maybe a melee assassin like Akali or Fiddlesticks.
Akali is an interesting hero, to say the least. Huge damage output, amazing chasing ability, and a kind of "personal brush" stealth mechanic that often tends to be the only thing saving you from your own nonexistent survivability. If you get kills early enough, you can carry before the enemy's DPS becomes a threat and completely dominate the game by being impossible to escape from and deadly enough to kill whoever you want. The energy mechanic is almost negligible since Akali's abilities almost never leave you without enough energy to do what you want.

Of course, assuming you don't carry that much, you'll still be quite dangerous to the enemy's own weak DPS classes. The only problem is that in a 5v5 fight, you need your team to create enough chaos that you won't be targetted and killed, as you will be within range of the entire enemy team and most likely one of the weakest heroes in the fight. Wait for the right opportunity, dash to someone, drop a stealth cloud, kill them, and hide before anyone can stop you. Repeat as soon as they realize that your team is a big enough threat that they can't waste time waiting for you to come out of stealth.

I can't tell you much about the other two you mentioned, but Jax is much worse at chasing than Akali, and he's got a lot more survivability to work with. If you don't think you can play like an actual ninja, you might consider trying him out instead, as he's a lot less sneaky about killing things.
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Crush Bandicoot wrote: I've been looking into fast melee heroes, what do you guys think of Xin, Jax or maybe a melee assassin like Akali or Fiddlesticks.
Wat

EDIt: also, I bought my first skin for... Evelynn. Honestly, evelynn is my champ. Everyone says she's underpowered and a shitty character, but I just own with her.
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Everyone hates Evelynn because she's only a good hero to play against bad players. As you get higher in ranking, people learn how to counter her so easily that she'll be stealing kills at best and feeding the enemy at worst. One enemy with an Oracle's Elixir can completely shut her down, and the smarter they are about staying alive to keep the effect active, the harder it will be for her to actually contribute.

It's also worth noting that most high-end games involve both teams traveling in packs around level 12 and higher, because even without stealth heroes in the game, it's still quite easy to sneak up on and kill lone enemies.
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I like Season 1. I just got the Frosted Ezreal skin. Been trying him as AP in normal games (aka the new practice matches), doing ok if we make it to late game, early game still kinda underwhelming.

Had some bad matches in ranked. Horrible teammates who didn't know what they were doing as well as intentional feeders. Normally they are just bad players but this guy was using every spawn to let the enemy team kill him.
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Ganelon wrote:Everyone hates Evelynn because she's only a good hero to play against bad players. As you get higher in ranking, people learn how to counter her so easily that she'll be stealing kills at best and feeding the enemy at worst. One enemy with an Oracle's Elixir can completely shut her down, and the smarter they are about staying alive to keep the effect active, the harder it will be for her to actually contribute.

It's also worth noting that most high-end games involve both teams traveling in packs around level 12 and higher, because even without stealth heroes in the game, it's still quite easy to sneak up on and kill lone enemies.
Everybody says she's sooo easy to counter, but the only ways people have told me is either oracle's or magic resist. I know how to counter oracles, it's not hard, honestly. As for magic resist, well there's a reason I have magic penetrations runes and masteries. She's underrated.

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I'm horrible at LoL but hit me up on there. I'm on it everyday as DrCreepy. I have a lot of unlockables and such so I never play the same thing twice unless I killed someone with them
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Leoj wrote:I like Season 1. I just got the Frosted Ezreal skin. Been trying him as AP in normal games (aka the new practice matches), doing ok if we make it to late game, early game still kinda underwhelming.

Had some bad matches in ranked. Horrible teammates who didn't know what they were doing as well as intentional feeders. Normally they are just bad players but this guy was using every spawn to let the enemy team kill him.
man you can't be serious, ezreal is overwhelming all game every game

early game you know to just go up and arrow bolt the hell out of the enemy even before first minions spawn, i've whittled down countless players to ~50% health like this.
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Badfish wrote:
Crush Bandicoot wrote: I've been looking into fast melee heroes, what do you guys think of Xin, Jax or maybe a melee assassin like Akali or Fiddlesticks.
Wat

EDIt: also, I bought my first skin for... Evelynn. Honestly, evelynn is my champ. Everyone says she's underpowered and a shitty character, but I just own with her.
It's not like he's ever super far away, but I think I meant shaco, even though I abhor the idea of using Shaco.

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Badfish wrote:Everybody says she's sooo easy to counter, but the only ways people have told me is either oracle's or magic resist. I know how to counter oracles, it's not hard, honestly. As for magic resist, well there's a reason I have magic penetrations runes and masteries. She's underrated.
You can't just counter Oracle's. You either need your team, or a situation where you can kill the one with the buff even when they can see you coming. Moreover, if you don't successfully counter it, you can't approach the guy who has it or anyone near him without being seen and focused to death. Evelynn's problem is that she's a melee hero with an initiating ability that CAN be countered, whereas most melee heroes can get into range and there's nothing you can do to prevent it. Nobody's afraid of Evelynn when they can see her running towards them because she's both easy to kite and very squishy. Most heroes, especially casters, can obliterate her before she gets in range. Meanwhile, heroes like Master Yi or Akali will cover that distance without taking a hit in and force the target to fight on their terms instead.
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That's why I take improved exhaust, plus her ultimate gives considerably movement speed and attack speed that makes her a competent melee fighter (Especially with Lich's Bane). Rylai's crystal scepter is great for those situations since it slows and gives health. It is true you have to work harder than Shaco or Twitch to be effective, but if you do it right she's one hell of a force to be reckoned with. You HAVE to play smarter with her than any other champion.

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Eve is an auto queue dodge. She is pretty bad. All you got to do is get some wards early game and an oracles late and she is bad.

If you let her get fed, she will do well, but of course that can be said about ANY champion.

I have yet to see a good eve. Every time I see one on the other team, I am thankful for the easy win.
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what you see =/= everything

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Leoj wrote:Eve is an auto queue dodge. She is pretty bad. All you got to do is get some wards early game and an oracles late and she is bad.

If you let her get fed, she will do well, but of course that can be said about ANY champion.

I have yet to see a good eve. Every time I see one on the other team, I am thankful for the easy win.
that mummy thing getting fed is impossible. The feed will most likely kill him and he will be the feed.
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