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Legendaries are Pokemon that you have to do something specific to catch them. That's it. The reason there wasn't more at the start is simply because it requires resources to make them, and the series is becoming continuously bigger-budgeted. In actuality, the developers want more legendaries, because when you only have a small bundle of extra-strong Pokemon, everyone uses them in their team in AnythingGoes matches; remember in the first gen, where every team had a Mewtwo? Yeah. Developers really don't like when that happens.

Regions in Japan became sorta moot after they based Orre on the US state of Arizona. They don't all have to be from that country, its just a tradition. Like naming the professor after a tree.

I don't know why you said GameFreak didn't want to remake the 2nd gen, that's... sorta... out of the blue.

And there's practically no chance that they'd run out of ideas. I don't know why you think they would. Are you referring to actual Pokemon? Are you referring to stories? Are you referring to extra sidequests, minigames, or such stuff?

Plasma wrote:
I don't know why you said GameFreak didn't want to remake the 2nd gen, that's... sorta... out of the blue.

And there's practically no chance that they'd run out of ideas. I don't know why you think they would. Are you referring to actual Pokemon? Are you referring to stories? Are you referring to extra sidequests, minigames, or such stuff?

Legendaries still have no others like them in the pokemon universe. When I was little thats how I saw them as being dubbed legendaries. And I'm guessing others have too.

I beleive I've read in Nintendo Power that they aren't planning on making remakes of the Jhoto games, because they want to keep them original.

By running out of ideas I mean pokemon, and yes there is a pretty big chance. They won't go crazy and start making stupid pokemon, and they will evantually run out of ideas on what to make for new pokemon. There is already over 480 remember. What happens when the next few generations come out, and its over 600? And how will the people who play it feel when they have to collect all almost all of those 600 pokemon?

VGnerd_Vera wrote:By running out of ideas I mean pokemon, and yes there is a pretty big chance. They won't go crazy and start making stupid pokemon, and they will evantually run out of ideas on what to make for new pokemon. There is already over 480 remember. What happens when the next few generations come out, and its over 600?

Pft. Yeah, they might run out of ideas... When they are up to around a few million Pokemon.

You forget the kind of genetic diversity that exists in the real world, or existed but is extinct now. And Pokemon has barely tapped that.

VGnerd_Vera wrote: I beleive I've read in Nintendo Power that they aren't planning on making remakes of the Jhoto games, because they want to keep them original.

WHAT. THEY COME OUT SEPTEMBER 12 (In Japan).

And keep yo hate to yo self.

Mr. Lostman wrote:

VGnerd_Vera wrote: I beleive I've read in Nintendo Power that they aren't planning on making remakes of the Jhoto games, because they want to keep them original.

WHAT. THEY COME OUT SEPTEMBER 12 (In Japan).

And keep yo hate to yo self.

For your information I don't hate pokemon, I just feel stating the facts is better than going "OMG I LOVE POKEMON IT WILL NEVER DIE!!!"

Karilyn wrote:

VGnerd_Vera wrote:By running out of ideas I mean pokemon, and yes there is a pretty big chance. They won't go crazy and start making stupid pokemon, and they will evantually run out of ideas on what to make for new pokemon. There is already over 480 remember. What happens when the next few generations come out, and its over 600?

Pft. Yeah, they might run out of ideas... When they are up to around a few million Pokemon.

You forget the kind of genetic diversity that exists in the real world, or existed but is extinct now. And Pokemon has barely tapped that.

Humans are creating pokemon remember, so its up to them to think up new ones, not genetics. oh and about the fact the there are too many legendaries, I give you this little video. its not mine by the way.

EDIt: can't beleive I hit send without the link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_zCAsSc ... re=related

It's about time they made a Pokemon game based on the United Kingdom.

We have lots of weird animals and mythology and shiz like that.

I said a while ago on my dA page I'd be submitting my own 'Fakemon' designs (something a lot of people do over there). I've come up with about 20 'good' unique designs and another 80 scratchy ideas - I've just not got around to lining and submitting them because of other things...

...my starter designs are better than the Gen. 4 starters too. I'll probably revisit and submit my Fakemon things at a later date, when I feel like I can.

Guess my point is, if I can come up with 100 original Pokemon/Fakemon designs, there's scope for millions more in a collective creative mindset.


Oh, and I've never seriously considered collecting all [000] Pokemon - I never wanted a Mr. Mime in Gen. 1 and I sure as hell don't want one now.

DoNotDelete wrote:.

Guess my point is, if I can come up with 100 original Pokemon/Fakemon designs, there's scope for millions more in a collective creative mindset.

You don't realize that having already made about 480 pokemon, its hard to make original ones without having the basis or peice of another pokemon pop into your head while you try to make a whole new pokemon.

EDIT: also, any pokemon that can make a fool of someone with invisible walls is awesome in my book. but I never got all the pokemon either.

VGnerd_Vera wrote:

DoNotDelete wrote:Guess my point is, if I can come up with 100 original Pokemon/Fakemon designs, there's scope for millions more in a collective creative mindset.

You don't realize that having already made about 480 pokemon, its hard to make original ones without having the basis or peice of another pokemon pop into your head while you try to make a whole new pokemon.

Maybe for you.

The starters I've created that I briefly mentioned before have broken completely away from the typical Pokemon starters. They still use Fire, Grass and Water as elements, but the base animal groups are an extreme diversion from what you might typically associate with Pokemon starters past.

There's a formula for creating Pokemon there for sure, but I've always been one to break formula every know and then. In fact, with a formula that seems set in stone, it's easier and refreshing to take something in a new direction.

As a side note, I've also noticed subtle artistic style changes from Pokemon Gen. to Pokemon Gen. So I guess they try in some sideways manner to breathe some new life into the design of the Pokemon, if nothing else.

VGnerd_Vera wrote:

Karilyn wrote:

VGnerd_Vera wrote:By running out of ideas I mean pokemon, and yes there is a pretty big chance. They won't go crazy and start making stupid pokemon, and they will evantually run out of ideas on what to make for new pokemon. There is already over 480 remember. What happens when the next few generations come out, and its over 600?

Pft. Yeah, they might run out of ideas... When they are up to around a few million Pokemon.

You forget the kind of genetic diversity that exists in the real world, or existed but is extinct now. And Pokemon has barely tapped that.

Humans are creating pokemon remember, so its up to them to think up new ones, not genetics. oh and about the fact the there are too many legendaries, I give you this little video. its not mine by the way.

EDIt: can't beleive I hit send without the link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_zCAsSc ... re=related

That's the point. Pokemon are mostly based on real world animals (or inanimate objects). They have not even come close to tapping all the possible animals to use.

Especially considering species overlap that is in the game already...

"Okay we have a dog. Now we have a fire dog, lightning dog, water dog. Oh, next game let's add a psychic and dark version of that dog. Oooh, now let's add a grass and ice version of that dog."

"Oh, we got a phoenix. Ooh, let's make a lightning and an ice version of it too, instead of just a fire based phoenix"

...

I find it funny you are saying that they will run out of ideas at around 600 Pokemon, when other franchises like Digimon, are currently at around 3000 different species.

DoNotDelete wrote:

VGnerd_Vera wrote:

DoNotDelete wrote:Guess my point is, if I can come up with 100 original Pokemon/Fakemon designs, there's scope for millions more in a collective creative mindset.

You don't realize that having already made about 480 pokemon, its hard to make original ones without having the basis or peice of another pokemon pop into your head while you try to make a whole new pokemon.

Maybe for you.

The starters I've created that I briefly mentioned before have broken completely away from the typical Pokemon starters. They still use Fire, Grass and Water as elements, but the base animal groups are an extreme diversion from what you might typically associate with Pokemon starters past.

There's a formula for creating Pokemon there for sure, but I've always been one to break formula every know and then. In fact, with a formula that seems set in stone, it's easier and refreshing to take something in a new direction.

As a side note, I've also noticed subtle artistic style changes from Pokemon Gen. to Pokemon Gen. So I guess they try in some sideways manner to breathe some new life into the design of the Pokemon, if nothing else.

If it seems set in stone then evantually they'll wear it out. And I doubt they'll make a whole new one or one thats too different. And slight art changes just mean they're getting better suppllies, not more ideas.

VGnerd_Vera wrote:

Mr. Lostman wrote: And keep yo hate to yo self.

For your information I don't hate pokemon, I just feel stating the facts is better than going "OMG I LOVE POKEMON IT WILL NEVER DIE!!!"

I don't think it won't ever die, but saying it should just be cause you think it's running out of ideas is absurd. (While HG/SS are remakes, they're really going all out with new crap for them.)


Sequel: The Videogame.

Karilyn wrote:

VGnerd_Vera wrote:

Karilyn wrote: Pft. Yeah, they might run out of ideas... When they are up to around a few million Pokemon.

You forget the kind of genetic diversity that exists in the real world, or existed but is extinct now. And Pokemon has barely tapped that.

Humans are creating pokemon remember, so its up to them to think up new ones, not genetics. oh and about the fact the there are too many legendaries, I give you this little video. its not mine by the way.

EDIt: can't beleive I hit send without the link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_zCAsSc ... re=related

That's the point. Pokemon are mostly based on real world animals (or inanimate objects). They have not even come close to tapping all the possible animals to use.

Especially considering species overlap that is in the game already...

"Okay we have a dog. Now we have a fire dog, lightning dog, water dog. Oh, next game let's add a psychic and dark version of that dog. Oooh, now let's add a grass and ice version of that dog."

"Oh, we got a phoenix. Ooh, let's make a lightning and an ice version of it too, instead of just a fire based phoenix"

...

I find it funny you are saying that they will run out of ideas at around 600 Pokemon, when other franchises like Digimon, are currently at around 3000 different species.

You do know what you just said right? They just make one pokemon, then mooch off that and use it to make more "new" pokemon. If they did that in the begining who knows how much of a loss they are at now.

Also, Eevee is not a dog. It may be a fox/cat thing, but I don't think its a dog.

Mr. Lostman wrote:

VGnerd_Vera wrote:

Mr. Lostman wrote: And keep yo hate to yo self.

For your information I don't hate pokemon, I just feel stating the facts is better than going "OMG I LOVE POKEMON IT WILL NEVER DIE!!!"

I don't think it won't ever die, but saying it should just be cause you think it's running out of ideas is absurd. (While HG/SS are remakes, they're really going all out with new crap for them.)

[url
=]http://insomnia.ac/commentary/sequel_the_videogame]Sequel: The Videogame[/url].

I never said they "should". I said they "could".

So basically you're going with "OMG! There's too many monsters and way too many legendaries! They can't possibly make anymore because I've decided they have no imaginations!"

Just to be sure on what you're saying.