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It's not a gamble if you make sure that all the parts are compatible with each other, and you're considering incredibly overkill stuff, you really need to do some research about what's needed for modern games because you're not going to need two high-end video cards to play a game that's coming out for years-old consoles as well as PC any time soon.

Building a PC pretty much forces you to learn about what's in your computer and that will help you make more educated choices in the future. Otherwise you'll keep getting scammed every time you upgrade your box. If you want to work like a slave for three months to get something you don't really need and at a higher price than you could put together yourself easily then whatever, do what you want, I'm just trying to help you make better choices and learn something new, fun and practical.

Paco wrote:It's not a gamble if you make sure that all the parts are compatible with each other, and you're considering incredibly overkill stuff, you really need to do some research about what's needed for modern games because you're not going to need two high-end video cards to play a game that's coming out for years-old consoles as well as PC any time soon.

exactly! which means they will pretty much be able to bury me with this computer and I will still not have to update

basically price of this=price you'll end up paying for upgrades in the future anyway

You're going to pay for an upgrade no matter what you buy. Once DirectX 12 and then 13 come around, or any new technology, your silly old DirectX 11 cards will be obsolete and some games will look less than ideal with them. It's nice to have power but technology doesn't just evolve by increasing the number of gigahertz in a processor, new architectures and more efficient products are developed constantly.

Paco wrote:You're going to pay for an upgrade no matter what you buy. Once DirectX 12 and then 13 come around, or any new technology, your silly old DirectX 11 cards will be obsolete and some games will look less than ideal with them. It's nice to have power but technology doesn't just evolve by increasing the number of gigahertz in a processor, new architectures and more efficient products are developed constantly.

but until they come out with holographics or brain sensory I think this one will work like a charm with pretty much any game ever

For what it's worth I am very interested in this technical talk as I've been working towards the dough to personally construct a machine I shall dub Enigma. It will destroy all games from the past and for years to come, never coming down from maximum settings.

At least that's my goal.

So you are going massive overkill. I would enjoy doing that myself, but I didn't want to spend the time.

Except it won't because your hardware won't support DirectX 12 before DirectX 12 is released, and when DirectX 12 is released your DirectX 11 card/s will be obsolete. Same with new processor architectures, DDR4 RAM, faster hard drives and any technological breakthrough. And of course, once new processor architectures are developed you will also need to replace your motherboard in order to support the sockets. And since as far as I'm aware no motherboard supports both Intel and AMD processors you'll have to make sure that you have two versions of Enigma in case AMD develops something groundbreaking before Intel or vice versa.

In the end it'll be a huge waste of cheddar that you'll get to enjoy for a few months, maybe a year if you time it well, before something needs to be replaced by another super-expensive product.

If anything that might be a fun project if you're filthy rich.

I've lasted on nine years of games with this current machine that fails even running Poker Night at the Inventory. You underestimate the massive backlog of games I will amass once I get a new rig. I won't worry about upgrades for many years.

Then perhaps it will be better than the large majority of computers when you obtain it, but it'll still become more and more obsolete over the years until your hardware stops being supported or something fails. You're not going to run everything at its maximum settings for such a long time, even though you might be able to run things for a long time.

I suppose that not having to worry too much about upgrading is an upside, so if you're into that go for it. Personally I prefer upgrading my stuff gradually so that I never need to lower the settings too much or struggle with FPS configs in order to run a new game.

By which time I will have the cheddar for a new one. If the machine lasts me even five years of games both past (Oblivion onwards) and then-present then I will be satisfied and ready to upgrade.

Games are still able to run on the older systems, just at lower quality by a little. things don't go obsolete when something new comes out, it just means that in about 4 years it wont be good at all. That seems to be the cycle, the newer games are starting to get to good for older computers back in xp and some low end vistas, but over all if you had a really good computer, top of the line, you will be safe. I think my laptop will be good for 4 years, after that I will need to build a better computer, most likely a good desktop.

Paco wrote:In the end it'll be a huge waste of cheddar that you'll get to enjoy for a few months, maybe a year if you time it well, before something needs to be replaced by another super-expensive product.

I wouldn't go that far, DX 11 is only just becoming mainstream. I'd give it a year until it's the norm, at least, and then a lot longer after that until it's phased out completely.

If you really want something better than everything else on the market though you'll pay something like $5000 or more I'm pretty sure. It would need multiple processors of the best model today, as well as multiple graphics card and an incredible power supply and cooling system for the whole thing, as well as a case big enough to handle all of it. Then 32 gigabytes of DDR3 RAM of the highest quality, a monitor of the highest resolution currently available on the market, etc. etc.

YCobb wrote:

Paco wrote:In the end it'll be a huge waste of cheddar that you'll get to enjoy for a few months, maybe a year if you time it well, before something needs to be replaced by another super-expensive product.

I wouldn't go that far, DX 11 is only just becoming mainstream. I'd give it a year until it's the norm, at least, and then a lot longer after that until it's phased out completely.

I didn't mean that DX11 would be phased out by a few months, but that DX12 would come out by that time and games would not look as good as they could with that version of DirectX.

I agree with Ycobb on that, they take a while to change, and even after many games and programs will still be able to run on the old.

Hell I just want to get away from this dinosaur. Check it.

And heads up, the graphics card is a PCI.

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