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Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:57 am
by Tetrunes
I have a cousin stationed in Japan...

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:01 am
by Madican
Nukes don't mean much from them to be honest, especially not without being able to go airborne. Detonated at ground level it will, at most, destroy a city block with fallout minimized but the explosion site becomes irradiated. There are actually certain heights to detonate bombs, including nukes, at for maximum damage to the intended targets.

Not to mention we have many eyes in the sky watching them. If they ever pull out a nuclear missile/bomb I doubt it'd even get to fly with how many explosives we'd drop on it.

I'm not saying it would be bloodless or that nukes won't get involved, but they're not nearly the danger people think.

one death is too many

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:04 am
by Exeres
Madican wrote:Nukes don't mean much from them to be honest, especially not without being able to go airborne. Detonated at ground level it will, at most, destroy a city block with fallout minimized but the explosion site becomes irradiated. There are actually certain heights to detonate bombs, including nukes, at for maximum damage to the intended targets.

Not to mention we have many eyes in the sky watching them. If they ever pull out a nuclear missile/bomb I doubt it'd even get to fly with how many explosives we'd drop on it.

I'm not saying it would be bloodless or that nukes won't get involved, but they're not nearly the danger people think.
I have to say it's incredibly disturbing how quickly you fall into the acceptable losses camp.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:07 am
by Supaaku
NK has three stage rockets as well. Theoretically they could make good on their threats to hit some of their intended targets. Russia has been urging NK to reconsider their actions as well.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:16 am
by Madican
When did I ever say it would be acceptable losses? No, seriously, where do you see in that post I explicitly said that people dying would be acceptable?

It's one thing to say losses are acceptable. It's completely another to accept that there will be losses. I don't like it, but I can't change it. What I can do is attempt to give clarity to the situation.

Re: one death is too many

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:11 am
by TheStranger
Exeres wrote:
Madican wrote:Nukes don't mean much from them to be honest, especially not without being able to go airborne. Detonated at ground level it will, at most, destroy a city block with fallout minimized but the explosion site becomes irradiated. There are actually certain heights to detonate bombs, including nukes, at for maximum damage to the intended targets.

Not to mention we have many eyes in the sky watching them. If they ever pull out a nuclear missile/bomb I doubt it'd even get to fly with how many explosives we'd drop on it.

I'm not saying it would be bloodless or that nukes won't get involved, but they're not nearly the danger people think.
I have to say it's incredibly disturbing how quickly you fall into the acceptable losses camp.
No one ever thinks THEYRE or their loved ones are an acceptable loss

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:07 am
by DarkSurfer
When Russia and China are telling you to chill out, you got problems.

Re: one death is too many

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:12 am
by Madican
TheStranger wrote:No one ever thinks THEYRE or their loved ones are an acceptable loss
Which is why no one has ever sacrificed themselves to save others, right?

Stranger you have a very twisted view of the world.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:16 am
by Supaaku
And joining Russia in the camp of countries urging NK to calm it are China, France, the UK and Australia. Not sure if AUS has nukes, but the other three do. Though I really doubt any of them would use nuclear weaponry against NK, even to retaliate if NK uses their own.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:25 am
by Madican
None of them will use nukes. They won't need to. The USA has a 30,000 pound super bunker buster that, if deployed, will utterly collapse North Korea's vast network of tunnels in one blow. We also have at least one of said super bunker busters ready to deploy on a B-52 in that area.

North Korea won't fire nukes. As soon as they're spotted trying to ready for a launch they seal their own fate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_Or ... Penetrator

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:23 pm
by [Citation Needed]
So one guy on that terrible ~~**REALITY TV SHOW**~~ BuckWild died (it's like Honey-Boo-Boo crossed with Jersey Shore, with 100% more rednecked stupidness).

everyone (with zero taste) is like "nooo cry cry sob" and I'm all "Eeeeexcellent. Eight more BW cast members, then maybe take out Honey-Boo-Boo child, and television will more or less be saved."

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:24 pm
by Shad
[CN], I don't think regretting someone's death has anything to do with taste.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:36 pm
by Syobon
Agreed, death should be wished on no one, especially not on someone for something as trivial as being an idiot on tv.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:48 pm
by TheStranger
Syobon wrote:Agreed, death should be wished on no one, especially not on someone for something as trivial as being an idiot on tv.
Really? Cause thats kinda how I deal with everything I hate about the world.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:53 pm
by [Citation Needed]
TheStranger wrote:
Syobon wrote:Agreed, death should be wished on no one, especially not on someone for something as trivial as being an idiot on tv.
Really? Cause thats kinda how I deal with everything I hate about the world.
Also it's the response of the general public to terrorists, and the Westboro Baptist Church.