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Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:06 pm
by Syobon
You are missing the worst part, that someone was able to obtain data of a million users for 5 bucks.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:23 pm
by Kamak
Syobon wrote:You are missing the worst part, that someone was able to obtain data of a million users for 5 bucks.
And unfortunately that's a bit of a common thing at this point. First, because Facebook can't invest in good security, and second because of how much raw information is on the site, it's a prime target for attack. Facebook is putting out the fires.

Besides which, I'd be more worried about Google wheeling and dealing that information to everyone. Which they've been doing fairly openly since they merged with Facebook.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:31 pm
by Syobon
The fact that it's common only makes it worse, although I agree Google should also be kept an eye on.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:35 pm
by Kamak
At least, however, they're actually trying to go after the sites selling the information though, rather than just covering up the fact that it's happening.

The fact that they're proactive on rectifying this shows they're at least more responsible than companies like Sony, even if they probably have the same level of security and are too stubborn to invest the cheddar there instead of in damage control.

Yeah, it sucks that this is commonplace, but at least they're fighting it.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:39 pm
by Syobon
They're fighting it and at the same time selling the information to other companies. They probably fight it so they can ask more than 5 bucks for that much data. Facebook has at no point in time given any indication to give a rat's booty about it's users.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:58 pm
by Kamak
Like any company though, they want to at least appear favorable and safe to the consumers, even if they're not.

No point in just letting people know that a random booty person can come in and buy and sell their information easily.

And while Facebook itself might be dealing their own data, they're keeping a lid on it. Google, being a parent company at this point, is so blatant that I'm really surprised Facebook hasn't tried covering it up or that people haven't been driven away from Facebook because of it.

Again, Facebook is stupid, and if they really gave a shit, they'd keep this from happening at all and would tell Google to shove it up their booty. However, the gloom and doom of it all is a bit excessive when they're actually doing something rather than suppressing information and pretending that there isn't a problem.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:54 pm
by Syobon
The thing is that they are the problem. People are giving their personal information for free to a company looking solely to make cheddar with that information. That is a reason to be concerned.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:36 pm
by Reyo
Yeah, this is the reason I don't really give out that much of my personal information. When I do, it's only bits and pieces to where you'd have to be the world's best detective, or lucky as hell, to figure out who I am. I don't even give that much out to facebook, maybe my email and name. I just never understood the value in putting all of that stuff out there.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:05 pm
by somepartsareme
As far as I heard the Italian scientists are being persecuted for announcing that there was no need to evacuate after the initial tremors. Seismology is a very inaccurate science, true, but with that in mind they should have known that it could have still been dangerous. Some blame does rest on the scientists.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:52 pm
by Madican
Family in Georgia posted an ad on Craigslist declaring a free yard sale after their house was foreclosed and put the items outside when the day arrived. But the resulting crowd didn't stop with the items outside and came into the house, ransacking it almost completely despite the owners trying to stop them. Police think it would be impossible to track down the belongings and people due to the sheer number.

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/261 ... house-bare

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:37 am
by Reyo
Holy shit, and to think I started to like people again...

...is this Georgia America or Georgia the country?

Nevermind, I can't decide on which one would be worse...

EDIT: Also, I feel that this is in no way the fault of the family. No one's well intentioned action should ever have to justify the shitty acts of anyone else, even if it's as big as a crowd. That's just ridiculous. I'm a poor booty college student and even I would've shown up to take maybe a chair, and get the hell out. That kind of behavior is just inexcusable.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:43 am
by BurntToShreds
somepartsareme wrote:As far as I heard the Italian scientists are being persecuted for announcing that there was no need to evacuate after the initial tremors. Seismology is a very inaccurate science, true, but with that in mind they should have known that it could have still been dangerous. Some blame does rest on the scientists.
It makes no sense to charge them for manslaughter when these professionals were using equipment that gave them data that equated to "an earthquake is unlikely, but not impossible." The scientists never said that an earthquake was impossible. The LA Times ran an Op-Ed article discussing the situation. Lawrence Krauss states his opinion that this sets a bad precedent regarding holding scientists accountable for merely doing their job, which is science, a field of education well known for unpredictability. Already, two scientists have resigned from their current posts in the Disaster Preparedness Agency branch of Italy's government. Krauss, in his LA Times article, also talks about how "No one should be found guilty in a court of law merely for telling the truth as they understand it" and that "Science involves uncertainty". He goes on to talk about how this is a problem with "educational systems that fail to make science, and its limitations, clear; and with the officials responsible for those systems." And I agree with him on that. Science and the general public have always had a hard time with each other, and that really needs to change in some way.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:13 am
by Reyo
That's just man's need to blame someone leaking through, because nothing is ever allowed to happen just because shit happens.

It's why everyone loses their minds worse for natural disasters than anything man made, it's the presence of someone to blame.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:43 am
by BurntToShreds
Do you mean the absence of someone to blame or the presence? Because absence would make a lot more sense.

Re: The Current Events Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:55 am
by Reyo
The absence. If something happens, and there's someone to blame, it gets written off and the world moves on. If shit happens and there's no one to blame, then the world loses their minds.