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Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:09 pm
by Reyo
You guys have to remember that there's what legal, and what's moral. Like is it legal to tell your Dad to go fuck himself if he needs a kidney? Hell yes it is, but the people who know about it will see you as a colossal douchebag. Usually the law reflects morals, but this is a case (along with abortion) where it's a bit blurry. Like a good chunk of people will look down at you if they find out you've had an abortion. Not most people, just a good chunk of people. Another good chunk will make sure not to judge until they find out it was because you were irresponsible and just didn't want the baby, and the other won't give a shit.

I think the main issue with either argument is that they try to demonize the other side, the pro-lifers by saying pro-choicers are irresponsible sex maniacs, and the pro-choicers by saying that pro-lifers are sexist assholes.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:05 am
by Barabba
Quick question - If a god impregnates someone without their consent, would it be considered a "rape" or a "miracle"?

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:54 am
by Valbrandur
Depends on whom you ask really. I'm sure the god's followers (or at least some of them) would call it a miracle while those who look at it objectively might call it rape.

The opinion of it might depend a bit on the god as well. Such as the nature of the god, his morality, intentions and how it reflects in the offspring.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:38 am
by TheStranger
Barabba wrote:Quick question - If a god impregnates someone without their consent, would it be considered a "rape" or a "miracle"?
Considering how higher up God is compared to humans, its more like beastiality than anything else

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:08 pm
by Barabba
TheStranger wrote:
Barabba wrote:Quick question - If a god impregnates someone without their consent, would it be considered a "rape" or a "miracle"?
Considering how higher up God is compared to humans, its more like beastiality than anything else
Or like a human making robots to make love to.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:11 pm
by SaintCrazy
Barabba wrote:Quick question - If a god impregnates someone without their consent, would it be considered a "rape" or a "miracle"?
For the record the virgin Mary gave her consent to fulfill the word of God when the angel came and told her what she needed to do.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:31 pm
by Barabba
Huh, must have forgotten about that part. Christianity checks out in that regard.
Giving an entire city a literal golden shower to impregnate a princess locked up in a tower would be a rape, then? Or a miracle?

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:39 pm
by Rinoko
Barabba wrote:
TheStranger wrote:
Barabba wrote:Quick question - If a god impregnates someone without their consent, would it be considered a "rape" or a "miracle"?
Considering how higher up God is compared to humans, its more like beastiality than anything else
Or like a human making robots to make love to.
OK, this needs to stop right now.

I don't care if you say that you don't believe in it yourself, but don't freaking mock other people's beliefs.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:44 pm
by TheStranger
So dissention is okay as long as you never ever point out faults in other peoples beliefs, because it'll hurt their feelings?

Actually, now that I think of it, since humans are Gods children, isnt Jesus technically the result of incest?

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:47 pm
by Rinoko
You can think whatever you want about other people's religions, but you can choose to not be a jackass about it.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:50 pm
by SaintCrazy
I can see the simile in the robot statement, although the whole "sexbot" idea is rather ridiculous in itself, so I can also see how that would be seen as derogatory.

The real question is, why would you try to compare a religious event/belief to rape, when the belief itself doesn't describe it that way? Ending up miraculously pregnant is very different from being subjected to unwanted sexual contact.

Oh, and if humans are all God's children, everyone is the result of incest. Heck, if we all came from a common ancestor, everyone is the result of incest.

You really can't apply those descriptors to religious beliefs. They describe themselves. If the belief says it isn't rape or some other unsavory thing, then it isn't because the belief made the exception for that case, as long as you believe it.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:50 pm
by Cori
I really hate it when people ask loaded questions about Christianity, like you're trying to test my system of belief to make sure it 'checks out' to you. If it was an honest question, I wouldn't mind, but that wasn't an honest question. It was a test.

And comparing God's relationship with His followers to bestiality? Yeah, thanks for that slap in the face. That was completely inappropriate and uncalled for.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:56 pm
by TheStranger
Since all my questions about any faith ever tends to eventually boil down to "because we feel its like that" in one way or another, Ive grown a bit jaded about it.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:56 pm
by Madican
There's a difference between jaded and jackass.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:57 pm
by SaintCrazy
Nothing wrong with having any particular "feel" or perspective on the world, though. Unless that perspective involves hurting people or whatnot.