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Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:07 pm
by Syobon
Reyo wrote:I wrote out that paragraph because you asked me why I would go on a tangent on terrorism despite fearing it, and I explained that fearing something doesn't mean you can't understand it, and then I showed that I did, in fact, understand it
But...
I never said you didn't understand terrorism, I just said that it seemed like the fear for terrorism is what seems to motivate you (and the government) to use such drastic measures to protect against it. You do read my posts do you?

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:19 pm
by Reyo
Syobon wrote:
Reyo wrote:I wrote out that paragraph because you asked me why I would go on a tangent on terrorism despite fearing it, and I explained that fearing something doesn't mean you can't understand it, and then I showed that I did, in fact, understand it
But...
I never said you didn't understand terrorism, I just said that it seemed like the fear for terrorism is what seems to motivate you (and the government) to use such drastic measures to protect against it. You do read my posts do you?
It's the understanding I have of terrorism that motivates me. It's also the fact that I'm in the military where I'd have direct contact with terrorism that motivates me. It's also the fact that I'm in the military that is the reason I have such understanding of terrorism.

Also, if we're going to talk about fluffing our words, if that was your main concern, then why didn't you simply say "It sounds like your fear is what motivates you" instead of bringing the correlation between fear and understanding into the discussion?

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:20 pm
by Syobon
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It was you that brought up understanding? You're really starting to confuse me.

Edit: Ok I think you just misinterpreted my original remark. I meant that it was funny that you seem to understand that the concept of terrorism is a propaganda invention to motivate through fear, while still seeming to be under the effect of it yourself. Not that you wrote a tangent on terrorism without understanding it.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:38 pm
by Reyo
Syobon wrote:?
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It was you that brought up understanding? You're really starting to confuse me.

Edit: Ok I think you just misinterpreted my original remark. I meant that it was funny that you seem to understand that the concept of terrorism is a propaganda invention to motivate through fear, while still seeming to be under the effect of it yourself. Not that you wrote a tangent on terrorism without understanding it.
That's what I figured happened. The truth is I am a bit afraid, but I made a habit of trying to understand the things that scare me a long while ago.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:23 am
by Barabba
Is someone's race the same as their nationality?

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:26 am
by TheStranger
Barabba wrote:Is someone's race the same as their nationality?
No, nationality is what country youre from

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:30 am
by Reyo
race: their biological ancestry
ethnicity: I like to think it's synonymous with race, just more specific
nationality: geologically where they're from

Like ethnically, I'm Irish/German, but I was raised in the United States. I barely know a thing about German culture, and just from what I've learned in a classroom. I don't know a thing abut Irish culture besides the fact that I apparently should already be an alcoholic (and something about black people holding watermelons...)

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:53 am
by Barabba
Like, I just said that I don't like Japan and its culture, and people said I was racist. Wouldn't that make me nationalist though?

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:54 am
by TheStranger
No, that makes you a racist AND a nationalist

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:56 am
by Barabba
Hm, so not liking their culture makes me racist? Well okay then.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:01 am
by Syobon
Well, it kind of depends on the extend of your dislike. I mean it's fine to not like something, if you just wouldn't like to live in Japan that's understandable. If it's to the extent of hate though, you would be an intolerant bigot. But I'm sure that's not what you mean.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:04 am
by Barabba
Well, I don't like using Japanese words when I could be using American ones instead.
I think using honorifics in English translations is dumb.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:17 am
by Reyo
Well...do you not like ANYTHING about Japanese culture? Like the second you find out anything originated in Japan, do you find yourself instantly disliking it? Or is it more that you dislike certain things about the culture?

The later is entirely too understandable. The former...well the former is just insane.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:24 am
by Barabba
Well, I like their cool things, but I hate the things they have that I think are dumb.

Re: Taboo Topics (Heavily moderated)

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:28 am
by Reyo
That's...very nondescript, but I think I get it. It's not racist to not like certain things about a culture. I mean shit, there are certain aspects to American culture I find rediculous. It's not racist...it's human.