Art Thread

[hotb]

I'd like to know too since I can't understand why it would be less fun to draw that way.

I disagree with what Stranger has been saying. It is not "Useful" to know anatomy, it's essential if you are drawing people. It is essential if you are drawing anything that is alive or is supposed to look like something that is alive.

Building a "style" is not the most important thing, that kind of talk just builds complacency in people that could further their skills.

[TheStranger]

Im not saying you shouldnt learn anatomy, Im saying that sticking to it rigidly is a disservice to developing a style. Just because you CAN draw something the anatomically correct way doesnt mean that its the most enjoyable way. Finding a style you love IS the most important aspect of artistic development, it doesnt mean you should stop learning, but if its not fun to draw, why draw at all?

I would like to add that theres a difference between finding something hard to draw, and simply not liking it, the first one is simply a matter of practice, which is important.

Anyway, heres a sketch I did a while back

[wordNumber]

Im not saying you shouldnt learn anatomy, Im saying that sticking to it rigidly is a disservice to developing a style.

I ment that Tatzle should do studies of anatomy so the style (s)he (I think she) enjoys would improve naturally. When you study anatomy, stylized drawing become easier. One should still develop their own style though.

[Dire]

Preaching style over actual observation is never a good idea. Style doesn't get lost at the cost of correct anatomy.

[Tatzel]

I have when I try drawing like this, like it's... wrong, it's just not how I draw.

And you really don't have to worry about me ignoring anatomy, I never was and never will be one of those people who use "BUT IT'S MY STYLE" as their excuse; and I'm of the opinion myself that correct use of anatomy is one of the most important things (notice how I said correct use of anatomy, with which I refer to stylized drawings already too).

I know I'm not perfect and I know my problem spots, so I'm continuously working on them, even if it goes slow. In all honesty, I'm actually really self-conscious about my style, I'm trying to be more confident about it, but it's not really easy when it's nothing unique, outstanding or easily recognizable (and my lack of confidence makes it look even more bland).


I hope I could answer and clear up some things with this. But maybe as an addition why I don't like the approach on the right, what Dire said is true, using myself as an example here, I still draw the same but they continuously looked better as my anatomy improved. It's just that, again, it feels so incredibly unnatural drawing like this to me, and I simply really don't know if it's worth using this over my usual method, even though it provides me with better results because I have more space for everything, but it feeling so wrong, to me.

[wordNumber]

What do you do differently to draw the right picture, exactly?
Also, I didn't mean to imply you have bad anatomy, just that continued practice can only help.

[Tatzel]

I typed it out, but here's a redline of what the difference is (as I said, on the right drawing, I put the eyes too high out of sheer comfort)

[wordNumber]

Oh, I thought you meant there was some different method you used, rather then just placing the features differently.

[TheStranger]

Drew this late night a while back

[Airigh]

Hey AZ! I'm thinking of doing small commissions work.

What would be a fair price for something like this?


Not necessarily a fantroll, just this general style (I'd do upstanding members of society/humans as well)

[Thdark]

To Tatzel, about the whole two faces thing:

If something looks right, roll with it, do not concern yourself over matters of style. Style should never be something you ever consciously worry over, it should never truly come into play in your drawing. A style is merely the artists interpretation of how they understand the world and what they're drawing. This is why studying anatomy and drawing from life is so important, because while all artists should do it, they won't all interpret it the same way, and this gives life to some great stylistic art.

As for why you might feel the right face is more visually appealing, perhaps it's because it heavily resembles the work of Miyazaki. Heavily.
So much so, that when I first saw the image, I thought it was some sort of Princess Mononoke drawing.

[Cori]

Hey AZ! I'm thinking of doing small commissions work.

What would be a fair price for something like this?


Not necessarily a fantroll, just this general style (I'd do upstanding members of society/humans as well)

It depends on how long you took to make it!

I'd say if something like this takes an hour or so, you shouldn't even consider a price below 7 dollars [or, if you live outside the US, whatever the minimum wage in your country is].
That's your time, skill, and effort going into making something nice for a client. Don't short-change yourself.

[TheStranger]

Setting a commission price is pretty difficult, especially when you also need to adjust it for exchange rates.

[Airigh]

It depends on how long you took to make it!

I'd say if something like this takes an hour or so, you shouldn't even consider a price below 7 dollars [or, if you live outside the US, whatever the minimum wage in your country is].
That's your time, skill, and effort going into making something nice for a client. Don't short-change yourself.

It took about... well, I sort of am bad at keeping track of how long it takes me to work, because I also flit about the Internet or adjust playlists or whatever while I'm drawing. If I had to guess though, about an hour and a half to two hours? So I'd guess, somewhere in the 10-15$ range?

[Tetrunes]

Id pay ten bucks for that.