Art Thread

[The Willow Witch]

Alrigth I finally got all the stuff I did in my print making class!


Lino

Wood Block

Lino

This last one is importaint to read with the discription

[Madican]

Did you intend to not black out your real name on them?

[Turbro]

@ Tatzel: Firefly's comic is meant to be making fun of Tough Love, this incredibly bad comic that Zink reviewed years go.

[Zang]

@ Tatzel: Firefly's comic is meant to be making fun of Tough Love, this incredibly bad comic that Zink reviewed years go.

she knows man, but even parodies should look good, yea?

[The Willow Witch]

Did you intend to not black out your real name on them?

Oh nooooooooooo everyone sort of already knows my real name since some people have me on facebook.

[FireflyYoshi]

@Firefly
It's really, really hard to read. Also, it goes a bit too much on the "lolol so random" side, which you should avoid. Another thing, I've seen this rather often in your comics that it's hard to tell what exactly is going on, you need to work on the flow a bit.

>Ok, I'm changing my smallest writing for typeface. If it's really an issue, I can do that for the rest of it, but only if it's needed.

>Yeaaah, in reveiw on the parts I've shown you guys, I can see how you thing it looks "lolol random", so I'll try getting rid of the worst offenders. Just try bearing in mind some of it might be needed for the parody itself, and that I may have different randomness standards to yours.

>I don't really know what I can do about the flow. The comic itself is choppy and I'm not trying to redo every panel, just the basic story. Though suggestions might help~

I'll post an update shortly~~

EDIT: And here it is, after a lot of more drawing and editing, I give you guys what i've done so far on it: (I'll link if it's too long and it's a problem)

Seriously though, that shirt is cool, but I'm not going to buy the one on her website when I could just buy a Primark one and draw on it. I bet the one on the website isn't even magical.

And I'm doing in in black, white and gray because the original is black and white, though I might edit in colours that might be important (no one blushes gray, after all) laterrrrr. But then I'd have to assume colours, which is effort, so it could go either way.

[Tatzel]

Your handwriting is okay, but your panels are too small. I suffered from this too, probably still do, but you should do bigger panels. What you also should do is, leave some space between panels, don't put everything next to each other like this; especially together with your small panels is just making it look pretty cramped together.

The problem with your flow is, when I read it it's like "Okay so there is this guy who says he hates school, and then suddenly there's a girl? And then he's next to a flyer? And then he's suddenly at the martial arts club? They are doing something and then... did he even fell? My only clue is that the other guy says that he wants to help him up. And then he apparently runs away? And suddenly he's sleeping? Where did the bed come from? Oh it looks like he's dreaming now, and he woke up in shock, okay I can see that."
I know Tough Love is stupid, but even there they show the place of action, you know? When I read your comic, I'm just confused constantly what is happening, but even moreso where everything takes place.

[The Idiotic Oracle]

tatzel some of what youre criticizing is the point of the parody

that is bodaciously what happened in the original comic. the dude was whining and then suddenly girl, etc

[FireflyYoshi]

Oh goddammit the whole book looks like shit. And that's only the beginning of this book's problems.

Let's take a look at panel number uno. Notice how specific that text is. It is not simply the first day of Highschool, it is the first day of Highschool in the suburbs. This is important and is a vital story detail that had to be included no matter what. Apparently.

You may also notice that the panels barely fit together, as the topic and location change so abruptly you'd swear the page was a schizophrenic. As usual with these kinds of stories, it opens with the main character having an internal monologue about how much he hates his life. But wait! In panel number three, there is an interruption! A girl, who we do not know, walks up to him and says "Hey Brian! What's up!" to which he replies "Oh, nothing". After this, he resumes his monologue as if nothing happened. Who is this girl? How is it possible that "nothing" is up? Why was this short pointless conversation worth interrupting Brian's monologue for no apparent reason? Why is this kid's name "Brian"? These are questions that have no answers, adding to the aura of mystery this book so carefully crafts.

After Brian finishes his daily dose of emo, he notices a poster advertising the Martial Arts club. He decides to attend.

So yeah, I'm not the only one who can't do good layouts and pacing. But I'm grateful for the critique, anyway. I might put gutters in the future, but I work a lot faster if the panels are fitted together. I'm trying to reduce some excess crud by not showing the scene change in the classroom, because it then snaps back to the poster, which I take to be in the corridor. That makes the whole classroom part just filler.

Again, I still want crits, but I'm trying poke fun, not redo everything myself to a better standard. I wouldn't exactly be able to get it published.

[Zang]

Again, I still want crits, but I'm trying poke fun, not redo everything myself to a better standard. I wouldn't exactly be able to get it published.

that sounds like a horrible excuse to produce low quality work, bro.

have you seen Odd's tough love parody? It was goofy and funny and it still had a sense of flow, good panel work, and distinct action.

[Sol Reaper]

Different people = different styles. Odds made his parody with that sort of quality in mind. Apparently Firefly is going for a more artistic parody as well.

E: by "artistic parody" I mean "parody of the art"

[FireflyYoshi]

It's low quality? ;A;
I'm trying to not copy what Odds did...or anyone else for that matter. I'm just doing my own spin on the subject. Yeah, it might be choppy and stuff, I admit, but does that make my parody bad? I'm just trying to do this for the fun and practice drawing things. Also, I put a lot more attention on the parts I find interesting, so most of this is whizzing though it right now but I'll be putting more effort in parts like the Jock attack and stuff.

Anyway, update:

The last two panels haven't been finished, yet. I hate crowd scenes. Also I'm trying to settle on what Brian's hair looks like (I blame Odds for making me want to draw it with cowlicks). And the panel where Brian's all like "Oh, uh, yeah!" will be redone, it's confusing to read, but I like the drawing of Brian in that panel.

[FireflyYoshi]

I hate doubleposting as much as anyone, but I don't want to make my posts too huge and I have something new! Bonus art, if you like~


Link on dA [has description] Basically I wanted to not use actual colours for this.

[Tatzel]

Alright lets break this down.

The original got bad spacing, yes, but when you just copy it like this, does not make it a parody. Even moreso, it makes it a bad parody. If Firefly indeed wanted to make fun of the bad pacing, as in "where are the characters now" or "how did they suddenly get there", then just copying the original comic is the worst way to go. There is not even a hint that his parody makes fun of the pacing.
I recall Odds parody having a small part where it suddenly looked like a game HUD, and they teleported to a house. That is a good example of how you could've made fun of that, or even if it was just Brian screaming all the time "OH GOD WHAT IS HAPPENING".

I'm trying to not copy what Oodles did...or anyone else for that matter. I'm just doing my own spin on the subject. Yeah, it might be choppy and stuff, I admit, but does that make my parody bad? I'm just trying to do this for the fun and practice drawing things.

It's good that you want to do your own thing, but in all honesty? It's not that great of a parody. When I read your comic all I see is that you redrew it in your own style, with less text and panels/a lot faster pacing.

Apparently Firefly is going for a more artistic parody as well.
E: by "artistic parody" I mean "parody of the art"

I don't see any of this either. Chlomeow however the hell you write her name got a nice example, where she bodaciously made the head of a character float off.

[Zang]

I hate doubleposting as much as anyone, but I don't want to make my posts too huge and I have something new! Bonus art, if you like~


Link on dA [has description] Basically I wanted to not use actual colours for this.

Okay, bro, I would REALLY suggest learning some anatomy here, because that stuff comes in handy. Look up some tutorials and books, they're all over the internet!



like this thing here, notice how different parts of the body have different shapes? spheres, tubes, ect.

I'd suggest reading through this blog, and studying the stuff!

http://analyticalfiguresp08.blogspot.co ... -demo.html